lee1 1 Posted July 21, 2011 ive noticed on my bike when cold,I get like a little popping noise from the carbsonly when its cold,soon as it warms up it goesso after searching google,I came across thisapparently its normal on my model,but thought I would post thisas it gives some good info,on how to set the pilot screws http://forums.banditalley.net/index.php?action=printpage;topic=12935.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trebor4460 0 Posted July 21, 2011 Interesting article Thx Lee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted July 21, 2011 Ive had a tinker with the bike this morningas said there was a slight popping/like blowing back through the carbs on me bikefrom cold start it would stay there till the bike was running hotI know my bike has had some carb work,its on a service sheet I got with the bikefirst off I checked the pilot screws,no4 carb was around 4 turns outno3 around 2.5no2 around 3no1 around 3so ive followed what was put in that postscrewed all the pilot screws in till slightly seatedturned them all out 3 turns,run the bike till it got hot very hotthen just slightley adjusted them all againand its worked theres no popping through the carbs what so ever Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted July 21, 2011 good find m8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
day101 0 Posted July 21, 2011 @Stue11 wrote:Well done Lee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haveugot1 0 Posted July 21, 2011 Interesting reading lee and well done Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted July 21, 2011 cheers all always good to share info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 0 Posted July 21, 2011 nice post thats exactly what appens on my b12so let me see i have read this right turns the screws in until seated then back off 3 turns ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted July 22, 2011 @paul65 wrote:nice post thats exactly what appens on my b12so let me see i have read this right turns the screws in until seated then back off 3 turns ??yes mate thats right,but on the second gen bandit with the pair system its normal to have a very slight popping from coldI did confirm this yesterday with a lad I know who is a suzuki technicianif you get rid of the standatd zorst,then its best to have the carbs sync,pilot screws adusted just to be on the safe side Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted July 22, 2011 found this on the net to,but ive also been told the best way to check the plugsis go for a run,and check them when there hot,due to how advance the fuel is these ie,its not leaded any more dont know how true that is maybe trebor will add something hes a god at setting bikes upheres the link to a plug chart http://www.dansmc.com/Spark_Plugs/Spark_Plugs_catalog.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 0 Posted July 22, 2011 my next question is is it best to take carbs of and adjust the pilots then refit cos i have tried to adjust in situ and it seems to easy to chew the screw head up so i bottled it any advice much appreciated... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trebor4460 0 Posted July 22, 2011 @paul65 wrote:my next question is is it best to take carbs of and adjust the pilots then refit cos i have tried to adjust in situ and it seems to easy to chew the screw head up so i bottled it any advice much appreciated...if any of the pilots are tight or stuck in any way drop the bank of carbs out and get at the pilot screw properly with a quality driver. ir you strip the head you are in a world of pain... i had a seized one and in the end had to carefuly drill and tap it and fix an allen screw in there and just screwd it out, mind u it was pretty seized in there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trebor4460 0 Posted July 22, 2011 @paul65 wrote:nice post thats exactly what appens on my b12so let me see i have read this right turns the screws in until seated then back off 3 turns ??not three turns out on yours if it is a mark1 1200 Bandit, lightly screw the Pilot jet in till it seats then screw out 1 3/4 turns, then balance the carbs to get the optimum set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trebor4460 0 Posted July 22, 2011 @lee wrote:found this on the net to,but ive also been told the best way to check the plugsis go for a run,and check them when there hot,due to how advance the fuel is these ie,its not leaded any more dont know how true that is maybe trebor will add something hes a god at setting bikes upheres the link to a plug chart http://www.dansmc.com/Spark_Plugs/Spark_Plugs_catalog.htmlthats right lee, always get the bike to working temp first, off choke completly, them decide what rpm you want to check the fueling at, take her out on a bit of dual caridge way, armed with your plug spanner, get up to the rpm in top and hold her there for a quarter of a mile or so, dont suddenly accelerate or you get a quirt of juice which will spoil things, then hit the kill switch and dip the clutch to stop the motor turning over, coast to a stop and pull the plug and note the colour, this will give you a gud indication on how shes fueling.great link on the plug chart by the way Lee, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted July 22, 2011 @trebor4460 wrote:@lee wrote:found this on the net to,but ive also been told the best way to check the plugsis go for a run,and check them when there hot,due to how advance the fuel is these ie,its not leaded any more dont know how true that is maybe trebor will add something hes a god at setting bikes upheres the link to a plug chart http://www.dansmc.com/Spark_Plugs/Spark_Plugs_catalog.htmlthats right lee, always get the bike to working temp first, off choke completly, them decide what rpm you want to check the fueling at, take her out on a bit of dual caridge way, armed with your plug spanner, get up to the rpm in top and hold her there for a quarter of a mile or so, dont suddenly accelerate or you get a quirt of juice which will spoil things, then hit the kill switch and dip the clutch to stop the motor turning over, coast to a stop and pull the plug and note the colour, this will give you a gud indication on how shes fueling.great link on the plug chart by the way Lee, God you guys are clever and thank god you members of this forum the knowledge is just second to none Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 0 Posted July 22, 2011 @trebor4460 wrote:@paul65 wrote:nice post thats exactly what appens on my b12so let me see i have read this right turns the screws in until seated then back off 3 turns ??not three turns out on yours if it is a mark1 1200 Bandit, lightly screw the Pilot jet in till it seats then screw out 1 3/4 turns, then balance the carbs to get the optimum set up. yes it is a mk1 so its only 1 n 3/4 turns just to clarify thats all 4 carbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trebor4460 0 Posted July 22, 2011 One and three quarter turns out, all carbs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 0 Posted July 22, 2011 thanks bud 1 n 3/4 it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paul65 0 Posted July 25, 2011 bike all sorted now set the pilot screws all the same and ballanced the carbs they were all over on the place runs like a dream now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted July 25, 2011 @paul65 wrote:bike all sorted now set the pilot screws all the same and ballanced the carbs they were all over on the place runs like a dream now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted July 25, 2011 @Davehutch wrote:@paul65 wrote:bike all sorted now set the pilot screws all the same and ballanced the carbs they were all over on the place runs like a dream now Well done mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pikey 0 Posted November 16, 2011 Hi i have a 2005 1200 bandit which had a scorpian end can and a kn air filter . This combination has made the miss fire in the carbs really bad and trying to keep the bike at 30mph smoothly is imposssible.After reading on the forum i replaced the air filter with a standard one which made a slight improvement so i have shimmed the needles by 0.5mm and balanced the carbs which has made 70% better,the air screws have now been backed out 3.75 turns out from being fully in this has made the bike the best it has ever been.The exhaust still pops a bit when you are off the throttle but not to sure if this is because i running with the baffle removed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted November 16, 2011 always will pop on the bandit... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted November 16, 2011 @pikey wrote:Hi i have a 2005 1200 bandit which had a scorpian end can and a kn air filter . This combination has made the miss fire in the carbs really bad and trying to keep the bike at 30mph smoothly is imposssible.After reading on the forum i replaced the air filter with a standard one which made a slight improvement so i have shimmed the needles by 0.5mm and balanced the carbs which has made 70% better,the air screws have now been backed out 3.75 turns out from being fully in this has made the bike the best it has ever been.The exhaust still pops a bit when you are off the throttle but not to sure if this is because i running with the baffle removedgetting rid of the pair system stops alot of the popping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites