thanx soooooooo much for a big welcome, tis very nice to feel wanted. as far as banter goes i give as good as i get and ive got rhino hide(yes not all beuty products work)i think i picked up oil of ugly instead of ulay, lol. today i ran the gauntlet better known as asda (hell on earth) this time of year and like everyone else spent far too much on food that only makes you fatter, i had a stuggle to fasten my leathers as it was. oh well,there goes another mince pie! tonight im babysitting my sisters kids and watching crud on the tv, cant wait for spring. last year i wanted to do a road trip on the bike for my holiday but it never got beyond the wishing so next year im hoping to get off my butt and organize one, ive looked at web sites for organized trips and i was wondering if anybody had got any experainces of these?