Min_Hay 0 Posted March 28, 2009 IHOP UHOP's Guide to Efficient Restaurant LayoutsIntroductionHello! At the IHOP UHOP restaurant, we pride ourselves on squeezing every last gourmet point of out of our staff before they collapse from exhaustion! This guide will show you how to build efficient and effective restaurant layouts to maximize your bottom line!Basic Strategies1. Don't make your waiters walkThe less your waiter walks, the more time he spends serving and the less time he spends getting there.2. Too many tables!Resist the urge to add as many tables as you can afford. If you have too many tables and not enough cooks, you won't get the food out fast enough! I find that you should only offer 3 tables for each cook you have.3. Center your stovesKeep your stoves centered. A food order from any table can go to any stove. Don't keep all your stoves clustered in one area.4. Use cornersYour waiter can service in all 8 directions, so use corners as much as possible to give him the most reach.5. Box waiters inForm a complete square or rectangle using your tables to trap the waiters in. This way, they don't wander around needlessly to serve food.6. Avoid the wallsDon't set your tables and chairs against a wall or the grass:Customers aren't very courteous and they refuse to scoot in! The 3 empty seats shown above will always remain empty because the two customers block them off.Advanced Strategies7. Count stepsA good, quick rule of thumb to judge a layout's efficiency is to ask yourself: how many steps maximum do my waiters have to take?Both these layouts have the same number of tables and stoves, but one is more efficient! Which one?The answer is the first one, because waiters only have to travel a maximum of 2 steps. In the second one, waiters have to travel a maximum of 3.8. Avoid diagonalsLook closely at your waiters' speed, you can actually see that they move slower diagonally! It takes 1.4 times longer to cross a tile diagonally than to cross it up, down, left, or right (but it is still faster than going through 2 tiles!). Whenever possible, within reason, try to remove diagonals from your waiters' path.9. A Note on "Island" LayoutsYou'll sometimes see restaurants that have two or more "islands", each island having their own cooks and waiters, like this one:These islands are very effective, because smaller designs (with less cooks and tables) are much more efficient than bigger, bulkier designs. But there's a catch! Your waiters will often seemingly end up in random places, and there's no guarantee that they'll always end up inside the islands like you want them to. Every time you go to another screen (go to the street, visit another restaurant, rearrange furniture, etc.) there's a chance that your waiters will randomly end up somewhere and then you'll have to manually set them again.At the moment, I haven't found a way to consistently ensure that the waiters will end up at the right places. Sometimes it will work, sometimes it won't, and doing obscure things like dragging a stove around will cause the waiters to appear differently. Until I establish a fool-proof pattern, I'm wary of recommending any island designs.However, if you are feeling adventurous, here is a 4 cook 2 waiter layout that works fairly consistently:(Special thanks to Orphaen!)Recommended LayoutsAll right, enough talk, here are my recommended layouts!2 Cooks, 1 Waiter3 Cooks, 1 Waiter(Special thanks to Orphaen)3 Cooks, 2 WaitersKeep the same layout as above (3 Cooks, 1 Waiter), because you'll need more cooks to handle more tables.4 Cooks, 2 Waiters5 Cooks, 2 WaitersCheck back often because these designs are always evolving and updating thanks to feedback from the community. I will also add additional designs as I get more cooks and waiters.Thanks for reading and I hope that this was helpful!(Information taken from playfish forum http://forum.playfish.com/showthread.php?t=534672) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaiamaiden 0 Posted March 28, 2009 thanks for these pics min hay!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PiercedPrincess 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Wow.. They look great! I can see that things can get pretty hectic! I've only just started off and only get a couple of customers at a time hehee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
.miss lu 0 Posted March 28, 2009 wow thanks for the advices Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Woa...SWEEETNESS....this is great...I've been trying to come up with new layout but my brain just doesn't work that way...this is totally kick a**...love it love it love it =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Question...do you find it more efficient with 5 cooks 2 waiters or would 4 cooks 3 waiters work better? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 28, 2009 I find 4 cooks 3 waiters works better, but it depends what layout you have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Min_Hay wrote:I find 4 cooks 3 waiters works better, but it depends what layout you have. Ya...that's what I'm going for now... Come by my place and take a look...I would like your expert opinion on the layout of my restaurant :bounce: Sorry about the "ghetto" look to it though...I need to save my coins for nice tables/chairs... :lol!: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 28, 2009 I like what you have done so far.... BUTthe waiter has to walk right around the cooks.... maybe work it so the waiters don't have to walk around stuff??? Will make things a lot quicker. but other than that....looking good *thumbs up* ( I miss that emoticon ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 28, 2009 Coolio...thanks...I'll look into that =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GG 0 Posted March 28, 2009 hey....great and very helpful info. Thanx min hay! :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted March 29, 2009 hey thanks alot!!! this is super helpful!!!!! i love the layout of the shop!! haha thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted March 29, 2009 ok i got a question! now they serve alot faster!! and not really lot customers running away due to too slow! but....! hmmm cause with the layout above...we cant put too many tables! cause if we put too many tables..they will serve slow..! but if put only 12 tables means only 12 customers.. and when the customers come and there is no place for them to sit, they will run off wid giving u a BAD sign! and ur points will drop! so what to do?! >< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Hey glow...what you can do also is make it so that it takes longer for the customers to get to their chairs...so you'll see some people with almost "mazes"... Basically if you keep your workers above 80%, then they'll work fast enough that even though there's ppl not getting seats, you're still getting more points/money/rep... If you need help just let me know...my little restaurant just passed level 17 =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 29, 2009 glow88 wrote:ok i got a question! now they serve alot faster!! and not really lot customers running away due to too slow! but....! hmmm cause with the layout above...we cant put too many tables! cause if we put too many tables..they will serve slow..! but if put only 12 tables means only 12 customers.. and when the customers come and there is no place for them to sit, they will run off wid giving u a BAD sign! and ur points will drop! so what to do?! >< hey glow, I had the same problem with only 12 tables, so I just added more..... Here is my layout now........ and my rating went from 23-24 to mid 40's within 30 minutes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irshandy 0 Posted March 29, 2009 hmm.. tried the 3 cook-1 waiter layout.. it works well.. but its too hard to keep ppl having their own seat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Min_Hay wrote:glow88 wrote:ok i got a question! now they serve alot faster!! and not really lot customers running away due to too slow! but....! hmmm cause with the layout above...we cant put too many tables! cause if we put too many tables..they will serve slow..! but if put only 12 tables means only 12 customers.. and when the customers come and there is no place for them to sit, they will run off wid giving u a BAD sign! and ur points will drop! so what to do?! >< hey glow, I had the same problem with only 12 tables, so I just added more..... Here is my layout now........ and my rating went from 23-24 to mid 40's within 30 minutes. hey! ur layout rite..there is a problem rite? cause the waiter will be like at one side..and everytime u refresh..the other side wun have waiter.. will u have that problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 29, 2009 no cos I have 4 cooks and 2 waiters if u don't have a lot of workers just have two stoves instead of four Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Min_Hay wrote:no cos I have 4 cooks and 2 waiters if u don't have a lot of workers just have two stoves instead of four yaya i have 4 cooks and 2 waiters too! but rite.. the waiters very weird! when u refresh.. they stay at one corner only! and everytime u have to keep adjusting it! did u try refreshing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 29, 2009 I have had my restaurant like that for a couple of days now and I have never had a problem with the waiters. here is another screenshot, i actually have 4 cooks and 3 waiters now, 2 waiters are on the right and 1 on the left. I refresh all the time to trade ingredients and when i come back they are always right where I left them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted March 29, 2009 this was my layout b4..! and the waiter keep stuck at the other side..and the left side always left blank now this is my new layout.. hmmm! maybe i try ur layout again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Love2save 0 Posted March 29, 2009 great advice, thanks so much, I need to go and redecorate lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 29, 2009 HOT DAMN Min_Hay...HOW did you get the golden sweeper award so fast? Do you have friends that just leave their restaurants open but with nothing going on so you can sweet 200pcs of garbage a day? Hook me up with those friends... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 29, 2009 Well this is the layout I'm currently using... 5 cooks, 3 waiters I average between 47 - 50 rep ratings...just not sure if it's the one to use to gain the most points... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted March 30, 2009 Well after some testing...the final layout from Min_Hay has come out on top...you can gain around 2,500 pts/hr with all 3 course dishes at level 10. So for this is the best configuration I've found to date...so good job Min_Hay :cheers: :cheers: If someone finds a more efficient layout..plz post a pic and stats. I figured the above stats by doing a 15min. test run...will do a full 1hr test run later. Keep you all up to date Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 30, 2009 glad i could help plat, as for my gold sweeper award yeah my friends started playing and then didn't like it and everytime i refresh their shops are full of trash again hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Love2save 0 Posted March 30, 2009 after reading this thread I rearranged my tables and my rating jumped up, thank you so much for the advice !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 30, 2009 no problem. good luck with ur restaurant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irshandy 0 Posted March 31, 2009 min_hay, you got the gold garbage guru already?? who is your friend that always keep his/her trash like that? may i add him/her? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Min_Hay 0 Posted March 31, 2009 i have to ask her before i let people add her. she is on holidays atm so when she comes back i will give u all her e-mail if she agrees Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted April 5, 2009 what u guys think of this layout! i saw tis in sumones shop..juz wondering is this layout good ornot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted April 7, 2009 About the above layout...I think it would depend on what you're trying to get...points or cash...for a cash game it's probably good 'cause there's lots of tables...but I think you might have the problem with waiters having to walk too far to get to a table...and you'll only have 2 waiters looking at this setup... So they have to deliver food and clear the tables...you should watch that restaurant and see what "the people" are saying... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted April 7, 2009 Here's my latest layout...it gives around 2700pts/hr. The "power towers" don't help in points or anything...they just look cool...hehe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted April 7, 2009 lol ur layout i c b4!^^ hehe..lot ppl use that too! hehe i gona retry and test my layout later..! when im free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted April 8, 2009 hey plat...! ur layout.. will the waiter go to both right side and left side no ppl? rmb i wanted to use tis b4..and u said cant cause my waiter keep go other side.. but now u oso using..! so means it works? look at mine!! the waiter keep going the other side!! how urs work?! dun ur waiter go the other side too!! my customer keep running away when i on it..! the waiter juz dun stay at there! zzzzzzz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GenuineGem 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Thank you soo much! Great help! Kudos Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaiamaiden 0 Posted April 8, 2009 great layouts guys/gals! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted April 9, 2009 glow88 wrote:hey plat...! ur layout.. will the waiter go to both right side and left side no ppl? rmb i wanted to use tis b4..and u said cant cause my waiter keep go other side.. but now u oso using..! so means it works? look at mine!! the waiter keep going the other side!! how urs work?! dun ur waiter go the other side too!! my customer keep running away when i on it..! the waiter juz dun stay at there! zzzzzzz Ok...they way to fix this is like this: 1) When both waiters are on 1 side....RIGHT BEFORE the waiter is about to take a cooked meal you: 2) Go to "redecorate" and then switch the stove that the finished meal the waiter is about to take to the other side with one of your other stoves. You might have to do this a couple of times before it stays permanent. Once you have it, it'll be ok even if you need to refresh at sometime in the game. Hope it helps...if any questions just let me know on FB chat =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gaiamaiden 0 Posted April 9, 2009 i was wondering how to do that thanks plat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted April 19, 2009 I got a better way when that waiter is like on one one side..! everytime when u guys assign ur waiter and cooks...! pick ur two waiters first , then only pick the cook! and hehe it always works =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kedra 0 Posted April 21, 2009 I can't get the waiters to stay on their side if I splt the tables, so I had to redo it all again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted April 21, 2009 Kedra wrote:I can't get the waiters to stay on their side if I splt the tables, so I had to redo it all again erm...someone told me b4..if u wan make them each side have one waiter, give job to ur waiter first then only assign ur cook..! try it...and c whether it works not =) it always work for me~~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kedra 0 Posted April 21, 2009 I'll give it a go and see Thanks hun x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platinvm 0 Posted April 22, 2009 I think for the "island layout" (like what I have)...it works best to assign 3 cooks, 1 waiter....then the other 3 cooks, 1 waiter. If you find that the waiters are grouping together it works best to do the redecorating thing...'cause then once they're moved over and stay...it'll stay forever unless you change your layout again. If you have any questions about it read the above or send me a msg/pm me on FB chat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glow88 0 Posted April 23, 2009 Platinvm wrote:I think for the "island layout" (like what I have)...it works best to assign 3 cooks, 1 waiter....then the other 3 cooks, 1 waiter. If you find that the waiters are grouping together it works best to do the redecorating thing...'cause then once they're moved over and stay...it'll stay forever unless you change your layout again. If you have any questions about it read the above or send me a msg/pm me on FB chat. plat~~ as i said, u dun have to redecorate things...! someone from the playfish forum told me already, u can just pick ur two waiters FIRST, and then only pick the 6 cooks! ^^ understand ma? means dun pick ur cook first..pick ur waiters first and one wil go left, and other will go right..! it always works...! not troublesome at all.. better than redecorating~~! :face: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Celula 0 Posted May 18, 2009 glow88 wrote:Platinvm wrote:I think for the "island layout" (like what I have)...it works best to assign 3 cooks, 1 waiter....then the other 3 cooks, 1 waiter. If you find that the waiters are grouping together it works best to do the redecorating thing...'cause then once they're moved over and stay...it'll stay forever unless you change your layout again. If you have any questions about it read the above or send me a msg/pm me on FB chat. plat~~ as i said, u dun have to redecorate things...! someone from the playfish forum told me already, u can just pick ur two waiters FIRST, and then only pick the 6 cooks! ^^ understand ma? means dun pick ur cook first..pick ur waiters first and one wil go left, and other will go right..! it always works...! not troublesome at all.. better than redecorating~~! :face: Thanks for the advice, I'll try it right away, glow xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites