awesomegod16

hi martin, i 'm appreciating you words to me about now. all i can say is that things are heating up so to speak all around. blossom

i got in touch with this ministry that help people who were struggling with gay issues. they are in another state though. sometimes its just easier to go to someone who really helps people. sometimes its easier to get help with people who deal with certain issues. i think that its what they really do. blossom

no not here on this forum i m speaking about where i live. i cant be speaking about people here because they have been helpful. thats why i clarified what i said to mbstudent. i wasnt coming down on what he said it just made me think of another situation. blossom

no mbstudent, its not you that i say that about. what you said to me was great. its other people, the ones who wont help me because they just dont want to for some reason, maybe they are afraid. blossom

mbstudent, are you talking about me? cause i ask these questions about some situations i am going through about all this stuff. its too difficult to understand but tormenting to experience. and no i dont have any one at all at church who is willing to help me. i ve been there done that. all have turned away from me, and i mean ALL. the only ones who will help me are the ones who are telling me stuff about ritualistic abuse and all that, that frankly i do not want to hear. when i try to go towards the Lord, it seems all this stuff always stands in the way. i guess i will have to go it alone. thank you for your words. blossom

So, if a person becomes a christ follower, and they were abused as a child, and there are spirits, then are those spirits still in the person? what about people who are apart of cults and covens, and you grow up in one. and then, they purposely abuse you so they can open you up to spirits? then if you want to follow christ, are those spirits still there? and what control or neither do they have on a person's life? as far as steering them in a certain way or direction and away from God? are the spirits that transfer through abuse, is that just a result of the abuse, spirits transferring? and what about fragmented parts of one's souls? blossom

just an update on this situation... i didnt contact that lady as i thought it would not be in my best interest nor hers even if she felt like that, there was nothing i would do about it. i think i kind of understand what someone wrote about spirits being involved. i ve since been praying that the Lord would actually become the Lord of my life. He has been helping me a little at a time. I have not had deliverance nor have I went to counseling. I will leave that up to the Lord if that's what he wants. But I'm like totally throwing myself on his mercy at this point. And I am just praying for godly wisdom and understanding. blossom

Hi Cholette, Thanks for sharing as it must be pretty cool to have God speaking but then you said that He wasn't speaking about what you wanted him to speak on. I can totally relate to that and I want to thank you for sharing what your devotional said. It is really what I needed to hear and what someone just told me about. Just a little update on the surgery: I am really thankful for the Lord for his faithfulness in all of this. He came through in a huge way and He did direct the doctor's hands and guided him. God is allowing me to heal properly. As for the job, I didn't get any response from them, as I couldn't have gone on the interviews, God is sovereign in that respect. I start my old job at the high school this Thursday so suppose for now, He wants me there. Blossom

dreamster, I think i will do that. i could write her and ask her some questions. thanks for the input. blossom

thank you Jodi for responding to this post. its been here for a long time now. i dont know as i have gotten any more insight into it but what you said does make sense about the spirit thing. i do know that since i have been home recuping she has sent me a card and expresses a wish to see me. maybe its just me and not her at all. she is a christian so maybe all of this is just my fault and stems from me instead of her. then i am the one throwing out signals and she has a pure heart in all of this. that could be it. i guess its easier to believe. blossom

Hello, I am home recuperating from surgery and before I left my job in June, I had thought about applying for a job that was at a christian college. Years ago, I applied for this very job and didn't get it. And when this job came up on my email ( I get email alerts), I figured it was the Lord. The present job I am on, I just have been there for a year. But being at home and having so much time to think about it, I feel like I am at a crossroads or something like maybe an important time in my life. I mean, I don't know but I sense that this may be an important time for me. I asked the Lord, if this job at this college was for me, that God would hold this job for me. I can't go on the interview or couldn't have if they called earlier because I just had surgery like 11 days ago, and physically I wouldn't have been able to do it. But I asked the Lord that if this job was for me, that He would close the doors to all other applicants, and hold this job open for me until I can physically go on the interview. This prayer request isn't just for a job that I want, but I feel that it's more important than that, something else behind the obvious thing of wanting what I want which is a new job. I mean, Sometimes it seems that God is really quiet with me, that I am not sure what He is doing. I sense that quietness with God, like I really need to know His heart on what He wants for me. So my prayer request is for His direction for this job, but to really know what He wants, that His purpose for my life will be done in this season of my life. I don't know if anyone is understanding what I am trying to write here. I know perhaps I haven't gotten down to the real issues because I'm not really sure I know myself, but I would like to ask for prayer. Thank you. blossom

thank you for all of your responses when i was in college i had a friend who was a homosexual but it didnt bother me. i was just newly saved and was busy witnessing to her. some how or some time, this thing began to like hound me or if it was a spirit, come after me because there were women in the dorms that were acting out and i would see them, perhaps it caused me to want that lifestyle. but i know for a fact that two sisters in my family are that way also. i was thinking more of like Connie said' some generational curses', because I have been told I have a curse on me from some way back generations, and it was 1. so i no one in our line would accept christ 2. on the finances, and i cant remember the third one. but one thing i do know, there is occult stuff in my ancestry that i got interested in as teen and dabbled and also was abused. i dont know if being abused by a woman makes that spirit come on a person? anyway i am recuperating from surgery now, God has been extremely faithful to me in my progress and healing of my body. I just wanted to thank him blossom

i am familiar with exodus international as they are on my bookmark. thanks for the encouragement/ blossom

what I wanted to say is that this woman came over wednesday with another one of judy's friends to celebrate judy's birthday. i didnt know that she would be coming over, there was a chance that i would have seen her while she is here. i dont even know if this woman knows what is actually going on in her own heart. she says she is a christian so I dont know. I do know that I felt uncomfortable around her still even though I had been praying about this and wanting freedom from this. i kind of understand what you said Sandra, that's why I said perhaps this woman doesnt even realize the affect she is having on me ( I am sure the evil spirits know). I don't like feeling like I do. I still had a hard time looking at her although it was not like it was before. Like I said I don't even know if this woman realizes what is going on in her life at all. blossom

I think my greatest weakness is not trusting God. blossom

its okay about them not really wanting to do deliverance or not being able. i just believe God has someone out there or maybe He himself will help me. i dont believe he brought me this far to leave me and abandon me. i dont know why i believe this now but i do. blossom

if a person dreams of demons and there is a demon that gets attached to your body, like laying on your back and you feel the weight of it upon waking up, what does that mean? blossom

I sent you a PM about some things you sent to me. blossom

thank you butterfly and everyone who has responded. i really dont know how to thank you . i have read some books on this subject in the past but have not read Joyce's books. blossom

I didnt mean to mis lead anyone but its very hard to actually not be rejected by even christians about this problem. i am sorry if i have offended anyone. blossom

I think I should tell you that in all honesty, the person that is my friend is me. I didnt want to say because I didnt know anyone here and I was afraid of not being accepted here. blossom

background is: grew up in foster family. was victim of abuse by both sexes. found out info about birth family. interesting thing is when she was prayed for the issue of witchcraft came up. when she was a teen she had an interest in the occult. its such a long story. i wonder if this other woman that she has the problem with, has an contact with the occult? that might explain my friends problem. its hard to try to explain all of it from my friends point of view. MF= my friends parents: they were older couple, had their own biological kids. MF was one of several kids coming and going out of home. Her foster dad was pretty strict. Her mom was strict too but not much affection I think. She wasnt close to her mom but she felt that she had to take care of her mom, see to it that she was safe. Its hard to explain seeing that things have gotten to the point where I guess she is having to deal with this alone. I could talk to her about it but its an issue that has been there for a while. blossom

I wrote something in the thread on dreams about that a little about being molested. but yes to the abuse, the occult her, and yes to all three. thats a long story about her background. will write more later blossom

Thank you Butterfly for your words and also Dreamster.My friend has had this struggle for most of her life. It's really true that even when you become a christian you dont immediately have freedom but you still struggle. My friend had previously gone to her pastor and his wife and asked for help but I dont think they really know what to do with her. and its a very long story. i know she tried counseling before but it was a dead end plus finding a christian counselor, shes been down that road before also. i think its just her and God now. blossom

so its a soul tie? same spirits as in two people having the same problem = spirit? is that what you are saying. like my friend and this other person has the same problem? would this happen if this person wasnt a christian? is it like someone saying like opposites attract or in this case spirits attract? not understanding this too much blossom