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How much power does God gives Pastors over congregation?
seekingface09 replied to seekingface09's topic in A Praying Place
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How much power does God gives Pastors over congregation?
seekingface09 replied to seekingface09's topic in A Praying Place
I can tell that this is an issue that has been dealt with before. I would like to ask you to take a look at a dream I posted in Dream Interpretation. It is titled Dogs and Pond water - I think. This is another reason I wanted prayer. Oftentimes people are hurt from leadership in the church, and they are wounded sheep. They speak against authority in the church and they drop out. I believe that this is a case where God is showing me that no man is perfect, and His word says, it is better to obey God, and not man. This is where I will have to truly lean and depend on God as I walk closely with this person-or the next person. I believe if I was close to either of you, I would find something that I disagreed with...as you would do the same for me. I think this is a one on one with God and me. I do love to hear your input. I continue to solicit your unbiased counsel and prayers-not of feelings-but Godly wisdom founded upon the word of God. Thank you as always, it is a pleasure. Be blessed. -
How much power does God gives Pastors over congregation?
seekingface09 replied to seekingface09's topic in A Praying Place
I have had a lot of great teaching from this person. When members leave-and they just leave...it seems as though they go through bad things. On one hand I feel okay, but then on the other hand I am worried. This is bothering me. Please pray with me. I would never put my mouth on this person because I believe that he is a God sent man. I am sometimes reminded that "I can go behind the veil for myself". I had a dream the other week- 1 was I was told by the Pastor- I was sitting in the congregation and I was told "eventually you will leave". Then I dreamed about 2 nights later that I was the Pastor's mistress. I could hear "Woe is the one.... couldn't understand, but it was like a warning. I couldn't put it together. About 2 nights ago I dreamed of dogs coming after me--the pastor had unleash the dogs to clean the house. I also dream of someone forcing me to drink dirty pond water with tadpoles in it. I could taste the water. I ran to a higher place and the dog, a rottweiler jumped up almost to my level. I ran upstairs to warn others and the same man that tried to make me drink the water, tried to do it again, and told me to be quiet before I wake the baby....Please help. Keep me in prayer. -
How much power does God gives Pastors over congregation?
seekingface09 replied to seekingface09's topic in A Praying Place
well, I started becoming uncomfortable. i been here for several years. I do feel a sort of bondage. To give an example, oftentimes the congregation is told that they better do everything that the Pastor is saying, because he is hearing straight from God. The pastor is gifted in the prophetic and flows fluently. No accountability except for God. Controls everything, we are basically told certain things we have to do. This person is a great person, not bad at all. They are giving and all. A lot of the prophetis comes to pass. When I say how much control does God give man? Would God give man so much control that the only way that people can come out is by obeying something some one else says. This person claims to have more revelation...I am so confused, because I have been told that if we even question the authority God would deal with us. This person talks about money a lot. Told us to double our tithes..If we don't pay tithes we go through hell and high water, and we basically can not serve. An array of things. When I come around, I feel that God is going to show him how I am feeling and that I am questioning some things, because it is like "God shows him everything!!!" and I feel so scared when I am around, or afraid that I will mess up. I feel bad when I don't give enough... -
I am asking for prayer because I need clarity. I know that God is not the author of confusion concerning the ministry I am in. I have an uneasiness in my spirit. I am restless. I wonder how much authority does God gives a pastor over the congregation? I am not trying to be messy. I have a sincere request. I am going to post this for discussion. Thank you
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Thanks for the insight. A lot of the battle has to do with my spouse. Family moving in could not be avoided. The person did not bring the bible into my house-I have a family member married to someone who had the demonic lit. I am continually praying and anointing over my house, etc and family members. I have had a breakthrough in peace. The Lord revealed to me that I should not be watching scary movies. Although I am at liberty do a lot of things, all things are not beneficial to me. I love scary movies, but I obeyed and I haven had any problems lately with sleeping. As far as the lethargy, I was not praying as I should at the time and left my spirit open to what was happening around me. I have a bipolar relative who has been abused and a relative that gets very depressed and has suicidal thoughts plus an alcoholic spouse- All of which sometimes become very lazy and lethargic-sleeps a lot. I was not interceding as I should have been so I left my spirit opened. I was delivered from all of those-except I was not the bi polar- just very depressed, and those spirit has tried to come in again. But God revealed it to me, and I have victory. Thanks
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Reepromotions, Your post prompt me to write a post. I just wanted to share..I remember the times I have seen the little black things shooting accross the floor-in my halls, or flashing by me. I have also witnessed the huge appearances -seeming to be angels-but were not, and the witches and little demonic things. I would always plead the blood of Jesus-claim the promises of the blood-stand on the authority of Jesus. They hate the blood and the cross- and anoint my house, open windows, etc. I would go into prayer in my heavenly language and God would reveal the source. It would usually manifest itself quickly. I realized that one of the greatest trick is to make you afraid-when it is really afraid of the power of God in you. Many people think that it is unreal-but I am a witness- the dark world is real-but no power to us who are in Christ. We wrestle not against flesh and blood. God has opened your spiritual eyes to the dark world and He would not have you ignorant of satan's devices. Stay in your word. Remember we overcome the enemy by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony (which is Jesus Christ). We speak Jesus-God-His Word. AMen
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Thanks, all of waht you all said agrees with my spirit. I have been anointing my home. I know what it is. It is like when you are the only one in your household that is doing what the Lord wants and everyone else wants to do their own thing. I know exactly what it is. Dreamster-I have experienced a lot of that and I know that it is because I have a couple of family members operating in that spirit and everytime I speak with them or go around, I feel the attacks. It is startling. Also someone in my family used to read a demon bible. I know that I have to continue to anoint everything around me, including my children. I also know that I have to step up my prayer life. I started getting laxed. THanks for the insight.
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Reading the last post prompted me to write. It was about seeing the shadow. It think Reepromotions wrote in. A couple of nights ago I was asleep and I was suddenly awaken when I saw a figure standing over me. I normally sleep on the edge of the bed, but I manage to push myself on my husbands side of the bed awakening him. He asked did I have some caffeine, I told him, no. I noticed my heart beating extremely fast. I sensed that it could only be a demonic presence in my house. Also I read somewhere in the response to Reepromotions about coming home and feeling tired. About a month -I began to feel extremely tired- I hated-dreaded coming to my house. I have some other family members living at my house. But there has been an unsettling spirit in my house. Please pray with me concerning these things. I have been involved in a lot of spiritual warfare lately. Is anyone familiar with feeling sick when you have been in the presence of someone with a jezebel spirit? Lots going on please pray with me.
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One step at a time. All of what you are going through is process like you said. Process involves steps. He who has begun the great work in you, will complete it. Follow Him. I pray that you seek Him first, and His righteousness. Everything is going to be alright. However, do not try to take on more than you were meant to handle. Prioritize, because all of this is a new beginning. Jesus said that His yoke is easy and His burden is light. I sense that you are trying to be and do too much for the people who have supported you. Take delight, all is well. You are in the perfect will of God. Step back and let Him lead. God knows your heart. Whatever God has for you, I promise you will not leave this earth unfulfilled. So all is in His timing, not ours. Blessing and favor upon you. Stay encouraged. You are in the will of God.
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I have been doing this for almost 20 years. It is not fulfilling for me. I have been threatened. I dread going into the job. I am not the kind of person that is just going and not doing my job- I do the job to the best of my ability. I cry almost every morning because it is so unfulfilling. Many have suggested that I teach a different age group, but I no longer want to teach children. I feel like such a failure. I have been going through this for years, and I feel terrible because I should be grateful I have a job. I would never mistreat a child or not do my job, but the abuse we take from administrators and parents is just not fair. For years I have wanted to leave, but I wonder if God is telling me I should leave? Is my light gone out? I know that as teachers we get burned out easily...but it is not a passion for me, I don't desire to do it...Idon't feel fruitful. I don't wake up saying -yeaahhh!!!! I wake up crying. Now I know that it sould like I am complaining. I should be grateful..........right. That's why I feel so bad.
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I agree all of the things you have said are true. Virtuous, thank you for all of the scripture background. I do believe that is generational. If you have children, you do not want this curse to follow your children. You have to put an end. Yes, it is important that the person has to want to come out of this bondage. It is a deeper issue, but once you fall into that hole, it is hard to come out especially if you constantly dwell there. Only God can free you. I am sure that many of us before we got save and turned our lives over to Christ we participated in things that were not acceptable, so even as a Christian now, one can still be tempted, but we have to bring our mind under subjection to the word of God...wow... Pray for marriages, pray for singles...
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I have questions for discussion. What do you think about spouses addiction to pornography? do you think it is a form of adultery? Do you think it leads to adultery? What does God say about this? Should marriages end because of these addictions? How does it affect the other spouse? How long should a person put up with it? What if your spouse has adultereous activities? Should you divorce? How much is too much? You don't have to answer all. Answer what you like. Open for discussion.
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It is amazing how you poured into me when I needed a word of encouragement. Father, I come bodly to the throne of grace and ask for mercy in the time of need. Your word says that you will supply all of our needs according to your riches in glory and your word says that we have a high priest that understands our weaknesses. Trusting in your word, we stand on your word that you have heard the cry of rnestseekr before she even prayed. You also said for us to call upon you and you will show us great and mighty things which we did not know. Thank you that you are Jehovah Jireh our provider. I ask you in the name of Jesus to give her sweet rest, as she lies her head upon your breast. Thank you that she is kept by the beloved. Help her to trust in your unfailing love. We lift up her husband as well, that your restore him as you reposition him in this transition. It is for your glory. Help them to trust totally in you, and lean not to their own understanding, and to seek you first. God I ask that you will open up doors and opportunities-enlarge their territory. The ideas that you have given them, may they produce a harvest because we believe your word that says, you give power to get wealth. Thank you that you will never leave them nor forsake them. It is in the precious name of Jesus, Amen. rnestseekr, I want to tell you to tap into the gifts and abilities that God has given you. I keep hearing that he has given you the power to get wealth. Do not worry about tomorrow. I had to learn that scripture the hard way. Please get some rest, as I am in your shoes. I know that when are bodies are attacked physically, our spiritual being suffers. We can't seem to feel him-But as you told me-He Loves you! He is there. The biggest trick of the enemy is to make us think that God has left us because we sin or got off track. David says "if I make my bed in hell, Lord you are there. Where can I go from your presence?" He is right there. Been there all the time, He says trust me...I want fail you. Never have- and if I am not mistaken you have been in this position or similar one before. Be blessed...Iamfree
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I posted a dream naked/crawling and house burning. I received a response that I would like another witness to. I don't know how you all respond to this request but although the response from mldarrell did not agree with my spirit because in the dream I felt violated... The person that posted a response to my dream said that I was doing something that was not right and that I would be exposed and etc. I am trying to fit in...I am not trying to fit in with anyone... I am trying to please God by staying on a job that is tormenting me-teaching. Anyway without going in so much, please read and witness. Thank you
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Amen to all who responded. Hisbeauty...one thing I have learned-the greater the pain, the greater the anointing. Much pain, much to gain. If we suffer with him, we will reign with Him. Praise God. It used to cause me to cry, but now it doesn't bother me-I just wonder. I know that the things I thought I knew does not matter. I just have to enjoy the ride. I read your testimony once before and the power of God is awesome.
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Amen. I love to see others doing what they love and enjoying it. I know that life makes full circles. Sometimes you don't understand where you are, but I know that God does give your heart desires. My desire above everything is to please Him. Reguardless of what my flesh thinks it ought to be doing. I know that if I am faithful-and anyone else in this or any situation they feel is too exhausting or not what you would want at the time- If we are just faithful in that he will bless us and multiply us in much. That's my encouragement. So whatever we do-do it as unto the Lord and for His glory. Thank you
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Maybe someone can answer this or can relate to this. Have you ever found yourself wondering why you aren't doing the things you really love doing in ministry? I ask this question because I grew up singing. I love to sing. I know that God anointed my voice to sing. NOt bragging, it is something I dream about wake up with, rather be doing than anything. However I wonder if I lost that anointing. As a child I sang. Came from a singing family. Won many talent shows. Sang in church choirs, before thousands of people-prominent well known people. I loved it. However I find now in my adult life the tables have turned. All I have ever wanted to do was sing for the Lord. I used to lead sing/solo. I never though I was better than anyone-it was just I knew that was the thing that God gave me. God gives everyone a thing (gift)-some he gives many. You know, each of has a niche in life. And that was mine. Do you feel me? So it is not a bragging thing. Some people can cook well-that's the thing that brings them joy. Mine was singing-and the gift made room for me. But here is my point. For the past few years my gift seem to have been lost. I am a minister-I teach and preach the word of God-I love that-But I am hardly ever given a chance to sing. I sing background for someone else. For years I have felt that I wasn't good enough anymore to lead. I never get any opportunities. Did I covet the gift? I wonder. I don't feel like I was better than anyone else. Singing my songs was my way of offering praise to God in my own way. Each of us has a uniqueness that God has given us. I saw singing was one of them. As with some, writing books may be theirs. It all belong to God. But now each time I feel like I'll never get the chance to express my love for God. Yes I do through singing background, but it is different when you know God has gifted you in an area. If I am trying not to sound cocky or prideful-but I feel sufficated because My voice was created to give God glory. Help me? Have you been there before? Is this a dream deferred? I keep telling myself that there will be another time...Is it past gone or just wishful thinking. How do I feel about background singing? I still feel it is for the glory of God-But I feel that I have more to give....
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I posted this question on another topic area, but my question is what is your understanding of law and grace? I ask this question because I hear a lot of preachers teaching that if you do not obey laws you will be cursed. Example- and I am a tither- but I hear people teaching if you don't pay your tithes you are cursed...The text used is Malachi 3.
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Okay-here is the deal. I hear everything you are saying and I agree with you. But this is the root of this. The worship leader and the minister of music have had an adulterous affair for several years. Most of us know about it including our pastor. She has allowed them to continue to lead. Many of us have suffered spiritual abuse and etc...controling, manipulation from the hand of the leaders mainly----And it is still going on- Out of 5 years-each other member has led one song-some none at all-it is only 6 of us. I know that it is about God. NOt about us. Everytime I express my feelings-even to you-I feel as though I am wrong. Tell me, Am I murmurring and complaining?
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I need clarification on what I am to do. I want to move out of a ministry in the church. I do not feel connected anymore. I feel that my time is up. I asked my pastor a few months ago to allow me to go-he said no they need me. However-I am rejected-overlooked-as well as others. I keep hearing "Fruitless". I am bearing no fruit in this ministry. I am sick to my stomach until I need to remove myself. I want to throw up everytime I come into the ministry. Not the church-the ministry in the church. I want to leave because of the constant outward sin, manipulation, controlling, performing spirits-by LEADERS....I am praying...but I need some clarity.