test rode the cb1000r today

[Chadatious 0]

ok I wasn't out long but that is a cracking bike, so smooth and torquey, power delivery was spot on in all the revs, and comfy/flickable and still has a fair few ponies behind it.

down side I found bars were at my chest. I need to adapt as im used to rididng a sports bike. so iktll be something id get used to

and does anyone know best way to get a couple more bhp out of them? it did lack top end compared to the ninja a little bit as its is 10 or so ponies down.

deffo think I will be getting one thou!

[Oldfart 0]

Why do you need extra ponies Chad? Its quick enough already  

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@Oldfart wrote:

Why do you need extra ponies Chad?  Its quick enough already  

top revs there wasn't so much of a thrill as the ninja!

[smilinjack 0]

@Chadatious wrote:

@Oldfart wrote:

Why do you need extra ponies Chad?  Its quick enough already  

top revs there wasn't so much of a thrill as the ninja!

Course it hasn't you turnip, that's why it's the bike it is!   A decent can will most likely give it a bit more zip, but it's going to remain a CB1000 no matter what. If you want upright riding position and big horses, Aprilia Tuono all day long. Mad as a box of frogs.  

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@smilinjack wrote:

@Chadatious wrote:

@Oldfart wrote:

Why do you need extra ponies Chad?  Its quick enough already  

top revs there wasn't so much of a thrill as the ninja!

Course it hasn't you turnip, that's why it's the bike it is!   A decent can will most likely give it a bit more zip, but it's going to remain a CB1000 no matter what. If you want upright riding position and big horses, Aprilia Tuono all day long. Mad as a box of frogs.  

well ninja new says 143bhp being its age its probably 135 at most. the cb is rated at 128 so its not far out, its not like the old cb's its got a detuned firebalde lumps its just tuning it back up again

[dick65 0]

saw one the other day my thundercat 600 was bigger  look nice enough though   

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@dick65 wrote:

saw one the other day my thundercat 600 was bigger  look nice enough though   

they are mate, very short, and lack of panels. quite wide old lump thou, but its size is reflected in way it rides, so nippy, and flickable like a naked 600. yet had a 1000cc lump in it.

[dick65 0]

get a b king for poneys chad - careful how you answer that  

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@dick65 wrote:

get a b king for poneys chad - careful how you answer that  

don't want a bigger heavy bike mate just not for me, I do like them thou! local one with underslung exhaust, sounds insane!

I loved the cb! but was lacking the top end thrill. but only just I know a dyno tester who is a bike tuner specialist, he will tweat your stock cdi to become better than a power commander so probably the best bet after exhaust and filters etc.

think decat would be best took. those cats are ugly!

[dick65 0]

@Chadatious wrote:

@dick65 wrote:

get a b king for poneys chad - careful how you answer that  

don't want a bigger heavy bike mate ;)just not for me, I do like them thou! local one with underslung exhaust, sounds insane!

I loved the cb! but was lacking the top end thrill. but only just I know a dyno tester who is a bike tuner specialist, he will tweat your stock cdi to become better than a power commander so probably the best bet after exhaust and filters etc.

think decat would be best took. those cats are ugly!

you talking about my cat
and sounds like a lot of faff m8

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@dick65 wrote:

@Chadatious wrote:

@dick65 wrote:

get a b king for poneys chad - careful how you answer that  

don't want a bigger heavy bike mate ;)just not for me, I do like them thou! local one with underslung exhaust, sounds insane!

I loved the cb! but was lacking the top end thrill. but only just I know a dyno tester who is a bike tuner specialist, he will tweat your stock cdi to become better than a power commander so probably the best bet after exhaust and filters etc.

think decat would be best took. those cats are ugly!

you talking about my cat
and sounds like a lot of faff m8

not really yohi do a nice can with decat for that bike!

and then the cdi you pay the mkan he plugs it in a dynos it till he gets a good result!

[dick65 0]

@Chadatious wrote:

@dick65 wrote:

@Chadatious wrote:

@dick65 wrote:

get a b king for poneys chad - careful how you answer that  

don't want a bigger heavy bike mate ;)just not for me, I do like them thou! local one with underslung exhaust, sounds insane!

I loved the cb! but was lacking the top end thrill. but only just I know a dyno tester who is a bike tuner specialist, he will tweat your stock cdi to become better than a power commander so probably the best bet after exhaust and filters etc.

think decat would be best took. those cats are ugly!

you talking about my cat
and sounds like a lot of faff m8

not really yohi do a nice can with decat for that bike!

and then the cdi you pay the mkan he plugs it in a dynos it till he gets a good result!

thundercat  

[Chadatious 0]

@dick65 wrote:

@Chadatious wrote:

@dick65 wrote:

@Chadatious wrote:

don't want a bigger heavy bike mate ;)just not for me, I do like them thou! local one with underslung exhaust, sounds insane!

I loved the cb! but was lacking the top end thrill. but only just I know a dyno tester who is a bike tuner specialist, he will tweat your stock cdi to become better than a power commander so probably the best bet after exhaust and filters etc.

think decat would be best took. those cats are ugly!

you talking about my cat
and sounds like a lot of faff m8

not really yohi do a nice can with decat for that bike!

and then the cdi you pay the mkan he plugs it in a dynos it till he gets a good result!

thundercat  

wally

[dick65 0]

you've lost me mate and deflecting questions like a politician

[Chadatious 0]

@dick65 wrote:

you've lost me mate and deflecting questions like a politician

#
ive lost you?!! haha

[dick65 0]

means I aint got a clue what your on about or is a different language spoken down there  

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@dick65 wrote:

means I aint got a clue what your on about or is a different language spoken down there  

I said cat aka catalytic converter?

you said thundercat, and I said wally?

not much to understand, I blame your northern accents :P

[dick65 0]

I thought you were dissing my thundercat

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@dick65 wrote:

I thought you were dissing my thundercat

nooo mate nothing wrong with thundercats, cracking bikes, I meant remove the catalatic converter on the cb. that's the ugle thing. bit box under the bike!  

[dick65 0]

sorted    

so you gonna get one then chad? the one I saw was white and thought it looked good in that colour  

[Stue11 0]

Excellent mate make sure its what you really want as there a lot of money  

[Chadatious 0]

I think so mate but looks like its got to wait for the spring. and plan is to paint it Porsche reviera blue, and with black bits.

think that colour would look mint! didn't do it on ninja as its fully faired but ona naked bike its all good

[Tony nitrous 0]

You can't turn a CB1000R motor back into a blade.
Whilst Honda claim fireblade heritage, the truth is
the motor is from the boring a bat-sh#t CBF1000
and has different castings and internals.

Seen them dyno'd as low as 112 and 115hp which
means they are less than a 15 year old Bandit with a can.

Pretty little bikes but not performance orientated.

[Chadatious 0]

@Tony nitrous wrote:

You can't turn a CB1000R motor back into a blade.
Whilst Honda claim fireblade heritage, the truth is
the motor is from the boring a bat-sh#t CBF1000
and has different castings and internals.

Seen them dyno'd as low as 112 and 115hp which
means they are less than a 15 year old Bandit with a can.

Pretty little bikes but not performance orientated.

deffinatly had some go in it thou, if it can be around 140bhp id be happy with that as my old 40k miloes ninjas probably running less than that anyway

that's thing I want a light 1000 naked bike. speed triples not my cuppa, sound great thou, leaves z1000 or fz1 really cant insure superduke

[dick65 0]

you had a ride on a fazer 1000 chad  

[Chadatious 0]

@dick65 wrote:

you had a ride on a fazer 1000 chad  

I want to test the new fz1.

im not a Yamaha fan, ive always loved Hondas. saying that im not a Kawasaki fan yet I ride one so just shows ya  

[dick65 0]

you never know m8  

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@dick65 wrote:

you never know m8  

yup


also tony looked into lower bhp, and that's all at the wheel bhp, on remap, exhaust and filters people are getting 125bhp at the wheel average. so that aint too sad.

not sure what ninjas at at the 140 the books say is at the crank. may get mine dynode to see what is at the wheel,

[Chadatious 0]

at the wheel the zx9r are getting from 122-132 bhp, and 69ft of torque

the cb is getting from 119-127bhp and around 76ft of torque with remap and exhaust

so to be fair I don't think its a big enough difference to worry about.

issue with one I tested is its in Canterbury city, I found a country lane but no where I could ring its neck fully!

but deffo think next bike is decided.

and im happy to be going back to a Honda. just means what shall I do this winter, nothing to tinker with as cant spend money on the ninja now

[fr499y 0]

Try an older Z1000 03-06 model, with a PCIII and some nice race cans they will pull ya arm from standing to red line! Or try out a triple, might be your thing 2thumbsBut if your planning to ride a bike at high revs, your looking at the wrong bikes.. These big torque fours are designed for the low down grunt, hence why the BHP is around the 100-120 mark and not like the sports bikes in the 150's+.

I've had virtually every type of bike, from cruiser to tourer, sport to supermoto and they all do what they are made to do despite the engines being close in size. I wouldn't be riding the xjr high in the revs because all the power you could want/need is low down, were as a lot of sports bikes you will need to thrash it a bit more to get the same outcome

[smilinjack 0]

@fr499y wrote:

Try an older Z1000 03-06 model, with a PCIII and some nice race cans they will pull ya arm from standing to red line! Or try out a triple, might be your thing 2thumbsBut if your planning to ride a bike at high revs, your looking at the wrong bikes.. These big torque fours are designed for the low down grunt, hence why the BHP is around the 100-120 mark and not like the sports bikes in the 150's+.

I've had virtually every type of bike, from cruiser to tourer, sport to supermoto and they all do what they are made to do despite the engines being close in size. I wouldn't be riding the xjr high in the revs because all the power you could want/need is low down, were as a lot of sports bikes you will need to thrash it a bit more to get the same outcome

Totally agree. More to motorbikes than power figures.  

[Oldfart 0]

Totally agree   Unless you've the skill of John McPint you'll never use all that power anyway

[madsod 0]

  

[Chadatious 0]

totally agree, think its just me being silly worrying that ill get bored as less than the ninja, but its not far off so I think its one ill go for.

in that nice blue, decat, thinking Yoshi but we will see, get cdi remapped, then few cosmetics, like seat cowl, undertray, etc

already bought a screen, ugly as fook, and scratched but massive touring one won it on ebay for 99p posted cant complaint be handy for maybe longer trips

[madsod 0]

Looks nice with lots of extra on it

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB1000R-low-miles-lots-of-extras-cbr-streetfighter-/251337641718?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a84e40ef6

[dick65 0]

  

[Chadatious 0]

noo that's too standard! lol

[lee1 1]

@Chadatious wrote:

noo that's too standard! lol

reckon a standard one will do you chad,then you can make it your own  

[Stue11 0]

@Oldfart wrote:

Totally agree    Unless you've the skill of John McPint you'll never use all that power anyway

  

[Chadatious 0]

@lee wrote:

@Chadatious wrote:

noo that's too standard! lol

reckon a standard one will do you chad,then you can make it your own  

yup lol. all ,y mates moan, saying how fter a year my bikes never look the same. look at the ninja was an almost stock bike in blue when I got it, now its got quite a bit of bling and is black  

[fr499y 0]

i wouldn't decat, i'd get the mivv double guns slapped on it and enjoy it as it is!

[BanditMike 0]

@fr499y wrote:

Try an older Z1000 03-06 model, with a PCIII and some nice race cans they will pull ya arm from standing to red line! Or try out a triple, might be your thing 2thumbsBut if your planning to ride a bike at high revs, your looking at the wrong bikes.. These big torque fours are designed for the low down grunt, hence why the BHP is around the 100-120 mark and not like the sports bikes in the 150's+.

I've had virtually every type of bike, from cruiser to tourer, sport to supermoto and they all do what they are made to do despite the engines being close in size. I wouldn't be riding the xjr high in the revs because all the power you could want/need is low down, were as a lot of sports bikes you will need to thrash it a bit more to get the same outcome

Agree with Matt. I had the Bandit 1200, cracking bike, for over 2 years and fancied a change. Ended up with the ZX almost by accident, and love it     It does everything I need, it munches miles and will fly if I need it to   But with both bikes, as Matt says, most of the power is low down the revs. I rode the sons R1, massively quick bike, but all the power is high up the rev range, which isn't how I ride. In essence I'm saying, as is Tony, choose a bike that suits your riding style, or you'll have to adapt your style to the bike you choose. With the ZX, I can rev it high and it flies, but there's enough torque so I generally stay around 7k and it does exactly what I need, same as the Bandit did.

[dick65 0]

yeah you never know chad you may surprise yourself - I bought the Ace by chance it wasn't the bike id gone to test ride but one test ride and I knew it was right ,theres plenty low down poke where you need it and great for touring on quick and comfy - just try loads out m8 ,ive even looked at a bmw 1200 rt recently  

[Chadatious 0]

did love the cb just couldn't fully open it up near that dealer. just needed new bars, and why not a decat mat, looking at like a Yoshi with decat.

cats are a nusance imo!

and very true dick off to test the fz1 in a week or two. got personal insurance for me as im under 21