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[haveugot1 0]

Not the green ones.  

Timing retard eliminator.

Arw they any good.? I have been told to expect morw more through the gears. But does it fool the engine into thinking its running colder? So worse on fuel and a nightmare to start when hot?

     

[dick65 0]

ive no idea mark  sure someone will m8

[bladerunner 0]

on some Suzukis the power is limited in the lower gears, fitting a TRE fools the ecu into thinking its in a higher gear so giving you full power in all gears. and yes they do work, how well depends on how much your bikes been limited. They can make the bike a bit harder work at low speed though.

[madsod 0]

I had one on my gsxr 1000 and yes i did give it a bit more go in the first few gears not that i ever went over 70 mph   . miss that bike it was so fast and a joy to ride   

[Chadatious 0]

never seen a tre? sounds interesting..................

[jezza 0]

I have one of these fitted to mine

http://www.boostbysmith.com/highgain.html

[haveugot1 0]

@jezza wrote:

I have one of these fitted to mine

http://www.boostbysmith.com/highgain.html

Do u have the one without a toggle switch.i dont have a gear indicator.

Will be getting one of these. Have u had to put a power commander on yours?

[jezza 0]

@haveugot1 wrote:

@jezza wrote:

I have one of these fitted to mine

http://www.boostbysmith.com/highgain.html

Do u have the one without a toggle switch.i dont have a gear indicator.

Will be getting one of these. Have u had to put a power commander on yours?

No toggle on the one I have, I don't have a power commander as I have a healtech fi tuner pro fitted.
http://www.timblakemoreracing.co.uk/healtech_products.html

[haveugot1 0]

Do I need a remap after fitting the de restriction.or can I just fit it and leave it?

[jezza 0]

I just plugged mine in, I did however have it remapped on the dyno to sort a fueling issue ( it ran very rich and bogged down).

[Tony nitrous 0]

Unless your buying something real clever
that can correct individual signals for individual gears,
and not change the neutral signal etc,

The most a TRE should cost is about 20p

I've done a few, on a Gen1 Busa its a 6.8ohm resister from Tandy.

Busa doesn't give much difference but does remove restrictions. No bad effects.

Not popular with GSX14's. many owners dislike them.

Not needed on B-Kings. The smart ECU can be re-set as unrestricted.

Biggest mistake is confusing them with ignition advancers.
One permanently moves every gears signal,
a cheap / crude TRE changes signals to all be the same.
Neither are ideal.

[madcarper 0]

I think you can get a gear indicator with a tre built in mark.

[haveugot1 0]

Yeah seen them ian. Im liking the one jezza has on his and getting it remapped to suit.

Will I see a considerable increase in power or am I just wasting my money for what I use it for?

[Tony nitrous 0]

TRE's are not designed to give horsepower.

They are there to stop the bike backing the ignition
off in certain gears and losing it.

Sometimes they don't want you to have a 160hp 1st gear.

Some modern superbikes use it to restrict top gear or the top two.

It may even be done to back off certain gears to get past immisions tests.

a TRE only removes possible restrictions,
it shouldn't find any ponys that the bike hasn't already got.

[madcarper 0]

like tony says mark you won't gain anything and to be honest m8 you probably wouldn't notice unless you ring the bikes neck and you don't ride like that . I would go for something like a power commander and dyno set up for a nicer more responsive throttle action.

[jezza 0]

Getting it on the dyno is a must if your gonna start faffing about with it. You can see from the readout below how mine would bog down , once the fuelling was sorted it was up nearly another 10bhp and the curve was a lot smoother.

[haveugot1 0]

Will get it on dyno once I decide which one to get.cheers for that jezza.  

[jezza 0]

You could go down the flashing route if you wish (not something I,ve tried) , there are a couple of people up north that do it.
John Warrington  comes highly recommended. http://www.rapidbike.co.uk

[haveugot1 0]

@jezza wrote:

You could go down the flashing route if you wish (not something I,ve  tried) , there are a couple of people up north that do it.
John Warrington  comes highly recommended. http://www.rapidbike.co.uk

Well just spoke to john and what a nice chap. He makes a tre for the busa its £80 built for your bike. He is goingito borrow me one and if I like it then purchase it. If I dont we r going dyno run it, find any flaws then remap to suit.

Cheers jezza.