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As God told Joyce Meyer, “if you do not look on scripture in light of other scriptures you will fall into deception”. I have posted several scriptures previously in regards to submission to authority, but you have seen it fit to ignore those scriptures. If your leader tells you to murder somebody would you do it? Do you know some leaders do that? When the anti-Christ comes in power, and becomes the primary world leader will you will submitting to his authority, will you be taking the mark of the beast? After all he, the leader, will be telling you to do so. How far are Christians willing to go with their leaders? Would you keep homosexual weddings in a church? Will you pray asking Jesus Christ to bless homosexual couples? If you were in Germany during Hitler’s reign would you be one of those people who willingly capture persons and put them in the gas chambers for them to be murdered. Or are you and other persons going to be like Daniel who was told in a King’s decree not to pray to God anymore and he disobeyed the King’s order and opened up his window like he always did praying not hiding the fact that he was praying to God. Will Christians be like Shadrach, Mesach and Abendego who refused to worship the idol which the King commanded everyone to worship or will Christians worship the idol. It is your choice. Either you accept God or you reject God. When King Herod married his brother's wife John the Baptist rebuke the King for what he had done as well as other bad things he had done, and John was locked up in prison for that. Did God have a problem with what John the Baptist had done, or was he moved by the Holy Ghost and that is why he rebuked the King? Luke 3 verse 19-20: [19] But Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother Philip's wife, and for all the evils which Herod had done, [20] Added yet this above all, that he shut up John in prison. You mention the repentance of the king when it is clear to see that you and others disregard repentance, the seriousness of sin, and the need for people to accept responsiblity for their actions. I mentioned repentance in my previous post as well as in other posts on this forum, I have said Obama needs to repent, none of you ever said that, why? Because you do not believe Obama has done anything wrong and therefore does not need to repent. It is as simple as that. You all keep on giving excuses, 'he's not perfect', 'he's not perfect'. What will you all tell God on the day of judgement? King Manasseh refused to obey God and God made him be taken in captive in shackles and chains until he obeyed him. Do you want God to put you all in shackles and chains in order to get you to repent and obey him? God told the prophets to go and confront the King about his behaviour and his actions which they did and the King refused to obey God, so God had to deal with him in a severe manner. Presidents, Prime Ministers and those in authority influences and impacts the life of many many people, having the ability to create laws and implement them, and more, either to the good of the people or to their detriment and destruction. As a result God has to deal with leaders in a very strong manner as he sees fit. I was going to pray for Obama one day and God told me not to pray for him. Imagine that. So grievous what Obama has done, that God told me not to pray for him. Why don’t you go in your respective prayer closets and ask God why he told me not to pray for Obama. I will not pray for the safety of someone who wants to and has enforced laws that goes against God’s laws, neither will I pray for that person to be blessed, I will not pray for the safety of someone who wants to put Israel in danger, who is persecuting the church, who wants to destroy America and other nations, because that is exactly what Obama wants to do and is doing. Your nation is a wicked nation, your leaders are wicked, you are a disobedient Church, and you are a disobedient people. Your leaders constantly go into countries creating absolute chaos and mayhem to fulfil their demonic agendas with no regard for the life or welfare of anybody, what is the response of the church in America to the atrocities perpetrated by their government? Are most Christians in America sad at people being killed? No? Upset? No. Do most Christians in America care? No. You said basically that my words are a detriment to the unsaved, that means that you consider the bible itself a detriment to the unsaved. How does a person gets saved? Can persons get saved without repenting for their sins? How does repentance come about? How does a person repent? I tell you that persons need to take responsibility for their action, that persons should repent, and that there are consequences to disobeying Jesus Christ commandments and you clearly have a problem with that. You said this is a dream interpretation site. In case you have forgotten God has been giving me dreams about your nation and about Barack Obama and who he is and why he is bringing disasters in your nation. Christians we are not here to tell people what they want to hear but what they need to hear. People here keep on using prayer as an excuse to not do what God wants them to do. Should the only thing Christian do is to pray? Is that what the word of God says. Someone posted on a thread saying that their Pastor said that the only thing Jesus Christ did was to pray and not criticize? Is that the only thing Jesus Christ did? No one saw it fit to correct that individual? What does the bible say Jesus Christ did? Christians have no excuse, you can't say my Pastor said this, that, what does the bible have to say? Do you all want to know who Barack Obama is? He is one of the forerunners of the Anti-Christ. How do I know? People became to literally began to worship Obama, as if he is Jesus Christ, utter blasphemy, and many Christians in America ignored it. Barack Obama never once condemned what was happening. As a matter of fact he said that he has done his works and have rested, likening himself to God when God created the earth and rested on the 7th day. Utter blasphemy. Where is the church when all this and more are happening? 100 days in office, Obama coronated Messiah http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/96138/ On his 100th day in office, President Obama will be “crowned” in messianic imagery at New York City’s Union Square. Artist Michael D’Antuono’s painting “The Truth” – featuring Obama with his arms outstretched and wearing a crown of thorns upon his head – will be unveiled on April 29 at the Square’s South Plaza. According to a statement released about the portrait, “The 30″ x 54″ acrylic painting on canvas depicts President Obama appearing much like Jesus Christ on the Cross: atop his head, a crown of thorns; behind him, the dark veil being lifted (or lowered) on the Presidential Seal. But is he revealing or concealing, and is he being crucified or glorified?” Even the title of the piece, “The Truth,” suggests a play on biblical themes, as Jesus said in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” ...... As WND has reported, D’Antuono follows others who have cast Obama in messianic imagery. In January, artist Matthew J. Clark paraded a sculpture of Obama riding a donkey and preceded by waving palm fronds, reminiscent of Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem in the 21st chapter of Matthew as foretold by the prophet Zechariah: “Behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an (My word was removed because I swore).” ........ Others, such as Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, have been far clearer in their nearly religious adoration of Obama. As WND reported, Farrakhan declared last year that when Obama talks, “the Messiah is absolutely speaking.” Addressing a large crowd behind a podium with a Nation of Islam Saviours’ Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaimed, “You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That’s a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.” Farrakhan pointed out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as “the Saviour,” Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did. “A black man with a white mother became a saviour to us,” he said. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.” .... The site is topped by an Obama quote strategically ripped from a Jan. 7 speech at Dartmouth College just before the New Hampshire Primary in which he told students, “… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote” for Obama WND also reported on near-religious experiences surrounding Obama on the campaign trail, as supporters who came to hear him speak on several occasions fainted in the middle of the candidate’s speeches. As WND reported, some compared the fainting to fanatical swooning in the midst of a mesmerizing preacher; others, like radio host Michael Medved, thought the collapses were staged moments; and still others believed it was simply a matter of people standing in the crowds too long and growing dehydrated. P.J. Gladnick of NewsBusters, in an article about D’Antuono’s painting on the eve of the Obama administration’s 100-day-mark, notes that the messianic parallels begun early in the presidential campaign don’t seem to be stopping: “The artist quite clearly portrays Obama as a latter day Christ-like figure, considering the outstretched arms and the crown of thorns. Obama worship, complete with halo images, has been noted before,” writes Gladnick, “but it was nothing compared to current expressions in awe of ‘The One’ as we approach his hundredth day in office on Wednesday.” http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/96138/ Obama seeks Hanuman's blessing http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Americas/Obama-seeks-Hanuman-s-blessing/Article1-316167.aspx India monkey god idol for Obama http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7468662.stm Who is Barack Obama? Barack Obama says he is a Christian but he is lying, he is a Muslim. How do I know he is a Muslim? Several reasons inluding that Obama went on his knees praying to Allah. What else has Obama done that Christians have been ignoring. Let's see: Obama: "My Muslim Faith" 2 Thessalonians 2 verse 1-4: [1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, [2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. [3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; [4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. [5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? [6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. [7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. [8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
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Dove Solutions I am speaking the truth about Barack Obama, I am not judging him. From Obama went in office I remember warning people on this forum as well as on other Christian forums about him, but most of you did not listen, if I was judging Barack Obama God would not have been giving me dreams about your nation. You and some Christians refuse to accept the truth. You ignore the seriousness of sin and the need for people to repent including Barack Obama. You ignore actions and their serious consequences. When people disobey Jesus Christ commandments there are serious consequences. Barack Obama calls himself a Christian and has treated God, Jesus Christ and the bible with utter contempt, he has created laws that goes against the word of God, he has put measures in place to teach young children that homosexuality is normal, he is leading people to sin against God and he is trying to force the church to hold gay marriages. He is trying to force Jamaica and other nations to accept homosexuality. Barack Obama has disposed of leaders in Africa and trying to dispose of the Syrian leader which has caused more Christians to be killed, and come under persecution with shariah law is being enforced in Egypt, Libya and other nations. Guns from America were purposely sent into Mexico which gangs used to murder Mexicans, and Barack Obama knew about it. Proverbs 20 verse 11 [11] Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work be pure, and whether it be right. Ephesians 5 [1] Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; [2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. [3] But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; [4] Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. [5] For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. [6] Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. [7] Be not ye therefore partakers with them. [8] For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: [9] (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) [10] Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. [11] And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. [12] For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 2 Chronicles 33 verse 1-10 [1] Manasseh was twelve years old when he began to reign, and he reigned fifty and five years in Jerusalem: [2] But did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD, like unto the abominations of the heathen, whom the LORD had cast out before the children of Israel. [3] For he built again the high places which Hezekiah his father had broken down, and he reared up altars for Baalim, and made groves, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them. [4] Also he built altars in the house of the LORD, whereof the LORD had said, In Jerusalem shall my name be for ever. [5] And he built altars for all the host of heaven in the two courts of the house of the LORD. [6] And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. [7] And he set a carved image, the idol which he had made, in the house of God, of which God had said to David and to Solomon his son, In this house, and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen before all the tribes of Israel, will I put my name for ever: [8] Neither will I any more remove the foot of Israel from out of the land which I have appointed for your fathers; so that they will take heed to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses. [9] So Manasseh made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to err, and to do worse than the heathen, whom the LORD had destroyed before the children of Israel. [10] And the LORD spake to Manasseh, and to his people: but they would not hearken. Daniel.5 [1] Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand. [2] Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem; that the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink therein. [3] Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them. [4] They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone. [5] In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote. [6] Then the king's countenance was changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and his knees smote one against another. [7] The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spake, and said to the wise men of Babylon, Whosoever shall read this writing, and shew me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck, and shall be the third ruler in the kingdom. [8] Then came in all the king's wise men: but they could not read the writing, nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof. [9] Then was king Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in him, and his lords were astonied. [17] Then Daniel answered and said before the king, Let thy gifts be to thyself, and give thy rewards to another; yet I will read the writing unto the king, and make known to him the interpretation. [18] O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour: [19] And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down. [20] But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him: [21] And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will. [22] And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this; [23] But hast lifted up thyself against the LORD of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified: [24] Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written. [25] And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN. [26] This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it. [27] TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting. [28] PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians. [29] Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom. [30] In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain. [31] And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old. Acts 12 verse 20-24 [20] And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon: but they came with one accord to him, and, having made Blastus the king's chamberlain their friend, desired peace; because their country was nourished by the king's country. [21] And upon a set day Herod, arrayed in royal apparel, sat upon his throne, and made an oration unto them. [22] And the people gave a shout, saying, It is the voice of a god, and not of a man. [23] And immediately the angel of the Lord smote him, because he gave not God the glory: and he was eaten of worms, and gave up the ghost. [24] But the word of God grew and multiplied.
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Who is more important to you all Obama or God? Is Obama too good for God? Are Obama and other leaders too good to be rebuked by people of God and by God himself. Didn't Moses rebuke Pharaoh? Wasn't Pharaoh the King Of the Egyptians, didn't John the Baptist rebuke King Herod for taking his brother's wife as his own and he is a King. Do you honestly think that any man can contend against God. Do you all honestly think that God is happy with Obama. Romans 13 verse 1-7: [1] Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. [2] Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. [3] For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: [4] For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. [5] Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. [6] For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. [7] Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. Is Obama a terror or not a terror to good works? Is Obama a minister of God? How has Obama treated God, Jesus Christ and the bible? How has Obama treated God's commandments? How has Obama treated Christians? How has Obama treated people? Is Kim Jong Il a terror or not a terror to good works? Is Papa Doc a terror or not a terror to good works? Is Putin a terror or not a terror to good works?
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Subjecting your thoughts to Jesus Christ 2 Corinthians 10 verses 3-5 [3] For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: [4] (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds [5] Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ Notice that we are to cast down imaginations and bring every thought to the obedience of Jesus Christ. So ensure that you are purposely thinking the right things, don't allow your mind to wander or to become empty. Philippians 4 verse 4 [4] Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. [5] Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. [6] Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. [7] And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. [8] Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. [9] Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you. Whenever you have a thought that is contrary to the word, use the word of God like what Jesus did when Satan tempted him so for example if a lustful thought comes to your mind say, 'Because I am in Jesus Christ I have crucified the flesh with all it's affections and lust.' You can also think this scripture in your mind as well over and over again. Galatians 5 verse 24 [24] And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If you are thinking angry hateful thoughts say 'Although I am angry I will not let the sun go down on my wrath' Ephesians 4 verse 26 [26] Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath: If you are thinking fearful thoughts say 'For God has not given me a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind' 2 Timothy 1 verse 7 [7] For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. If you are feeling sad, thinking depressing thoughts, say 'This is the day that the Lord has made I will rejoice and be glad in it. Psalms 118 verse 24 [24] This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it. I use to wake up every morning in a bad mood and what God told me to do every morning is to say 'This is the day that the Lord has made, I will rejoice and be glad in it'. About 2 weeks after this I noticed I wasn't in a bad mood as before. The word of God is quick and powerful, sharper than any two edged sword Hebrews 4 verse 12 [12] For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerned of the thoughts and intents of the heart. So bring all your thoughts subject to Jesus Christ, when a bad thought comes to your mind speak a bible scripture that is relevant to the thought you are having. Repeat the particular scripture as often as you need it.
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The above article was created by www.change.org “A Greener Spirit” is a Change.org series profiling the growing faith-based environmental movement"... http://news.change.org/stories/a-greener-spirit-global-christian-leaders-speak-out-on-climate-change According to the above article also in the first paragraph "We began last week with profiles of several pro-environmental evangelical pastors, and continue today with a look at climate stances from the world's three largest Christian denominations. Still to come: posts on Jewish, Islamic, and interfaith campaigns." The persons of this site chose to use Jesus Christ as a way of attracting Christians to their site, this site promotes a new world order environmental agenda, the anti-Christ will be head of the new world order, and this site supports interfaithism which is the bringing of different religions under one umbrella, which is no surprise actually because the new world order and interfaithism go hand in hand, according to persons in the interfaith movement buddha is one way to heaven, Jesus Christ is one way to heaven, Vishnu is one way to heaven when Jesus Christ states he is the only way to heaven. John 14 verse 6 states Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. This site is different from Youtube, it has a specific demonic anti-Christ agenda. -
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The site www.change.org is not of Jesus Christ. There are movements going on today that may seem to have an outward Christian appearance but in reality goes against the teachings of Jesus Christ. Below is a news article from www.change.org http://news.change.org/stories/a-greener-spirit-global-christian-leaders-speak-out-on-climate-change -
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