GoldenEagle

True. Modern medicine is not like ancient m edicine. Thanks, D.

Thanks, Connie. You've made me feel alot less upset.

IT's one thing to believe in healing, another to put people under pressure. On the day I was diagnosed with a rheumatic illneslI wrote a statement of belief. I said I was going to get well and that one day I would look back on the 9 years that had gone past and praize God. So I was prayed for in person about 4 times a week, not because I didn't have faith but because I did. I spent as much money on books on healing as a car might cost! My condition continued to deteriorate and I developed 2 new ones. One drug made me mobile for 9 months. The docyors were yhtilled but it failed and there were no treatment options left. A chfiztian told me this was good, that without medical hope God would act. A few times I nelieved I had been jealed. I even gave an interview to ourbiggesy tv syation about healing ehich.really embarasses me now. During all this time many attempts were made by myself and others to find out why I was.st. ill ill . I was encouraged to sear h through my whole life and family history which caused alot of damage. I was tortured ny myself and others with the message that it must be my faul. I was also having mymentL health messed with by the dredging up and reactivating of healed wounds. I nelieve God heals. But He hasn'y healed me thus far. I lost my career, my hopes of getting martied and having childteand many othdr tbings. I believed so hard and now I am crushed. An to have ppl say I didn't believe hurts more than I can say. I feel wounded and judgrd by the unloving attitude expressed in this thread and sadly throughout the Church.

Patdon me, too.mj, if I once believed in instant healings 20 years has knocked that out of me.

Pray for me but don't judge me, mj. I feel that to assum e some-one is still ill due to lack of faith is judgement.

Mj, I hope you will come to really understand people with chronic illnesses. I f you take the time to properly understand the path of pain, I am sure your views will change.

As I see it, I absolutely believed when I first prayed for for my SRA that I was healed. I belved it down to thye core of me.20 years later I've lost my mobility, my joband my independenace to this disease. Yes, believe but be realistic. You're not fully healed until a DOCTOR trells you are, and people who go off prescribed meds etc can end up in terrible trouble. The Church needs to be alot more responsible when it comes to the healing ministry - some people actually die because of it, like one lady I know of who got her symtpoms prayed for, believed she was healed and never even went to the doctor with what turned out to be diabetes. nGod doesn't call us to be foolish. And anoither thing, while I'm on the subject, this move within the Church to vilify the sick is nauseating. I'm in excruciating pain on a daily basis and God hasn't taken it away. can't be God's fault, so it must eb mine. That's the level of logic you encounter. When you need help, you get judged, and then forced to jump through endless hoops, repenting of evety sin you can think of and any sin of any ancestor you can think of, rehashing memories that were long healed. The psychologist on my diabetes care team who is a non-Christian says he spends alot of tiem delaing with Christians who are gulity because of their illness. As jesus said, 'you put many burdens on men's backs but you yourselves do not lift a finger to help them.'

Been there. They gave me prophecies and the total opposite happened. Fe up of healing ministry. It just straps heavy burdens on my backand does notlift a finger tohhelp carry them I want to end this topic. Yoh've all just made me feel worse

Greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. This person is very controlling. You need to stand your ground and keep your distance. Don't be afraid of her.

Sorry, but all that happens when I try to do this is I lose any peace I might have and get more and more upset. I'm not coping, and I wish I could just die.

If it makes other people uncomfortable that I'm sick, tough cheese. I'm not going to lie to make them feel ok.

True, Cholette. There's this big movement in the Chiurch at the moment that says 'don't speak negative things' but what it really means is be in denial... like if you have a serious illness and some-one asks you7 how you are yopu should say you're completely well. Well, you know what, God doesn't want us to put on a front. It's much better to be truthful.

Paperwork! Please, no. I've got enough to deal with lol. That bit doesn't make sense but the rest does. Thanks very much.

How?

Really need prayer, encouragement or any words that come to you.

For I know the plans I havew for you, declares the LORD, plans to prosper you and not to harm you; plans to give you hope and a future. Jeremiah 29:11 No weapon forged against you will prevail and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the inheritance of the sons of the LORD and this is their vindication from me. Isaiah 54

We don't have that option in my country. Sounds good though!

My mum and I live in a house we inherited from my grandparents. My Dad died suddenly and we do not have enough income to keep it, but if it sells for the valuation we got yesterday then we won't be able to buy anything else.

This sounds like rheumatoid arthritis of some kiind... get it checked out asap! Food intolerance does not cause those symtoms.

I think God is talking to Leslie at the moment. I was in a diabetic coma when I was a child. I had never even thought about God but when I came out of the coma I felt God had been looking after me. He'll change in some way through this experience.

Mary, just rest. Don't push yourself too hard or try to be perfect. My Dad died in his 50s (I was 29) and people kept saying, 'don't you just feel the comfort of the LORd right now?'. I didn't - that's not lack of faith, it was how I felt. You'll go through a journey and all sorts of feeling and it'll take the time it takes. Much, much love, Eve

Latoya, you just deserve so much better. Much, much better.... and I believe that 'better' is about to come your way. xxxx

Very complicated situation.

Oh, Debb, I am sorry you're not happy. Maybe things will change.... Is it your husband that your children don't like or was it just because their father had died that they reacted like this?

I feel very uncomfortable with this thread. I think you should have gioven us examples of what is a New Age response to a dream and the kind of thing that might be dodgy, but publicly ostracising some-one is just wrong. The poor boy may have been on a spiritual quest and was misguided, now you've publicly humiliated him and put him off trying to spend time with the children of God. Not good.