Dear AITM, Here is the thing: You shall remember some months ago Ms. Po recovered me from APC. I denied this and then i came back and so on. I remembered i talked with Ms. Po (i think) and we agreed that i was going to be demoted back to novice and then everything would be forgotten. Well happens, that today 12/2/2012 eric told me it was not forgotten and i am not able to rank. I will be kept at mason or artisan. I was going to post the log but i accidentally closed the tab. Eric if you are reading this can you paste it if you still have it? <alecmacher> eric <Ericrb> What <alecmacher> how many hours do you need form artisan to adept? <alecmacher> ik i have to check forums <alecmacher> but can you tell me? <alecmacher> or mason to artisan? <Ericrb> There's no hours. <alecmacher> ik theres no hours <alecmacher> ik that its not when you reach a hour you get the rank <alecmacher> but i do know that when you reach that certain hours you get a consideration of getting to the next rank <alecmacher> am i right? <alecmacher> correct me in im wrong <Ericrb> You corrected yourself. <alecmacher> ok. <alecmacher> i just want to ask you someting <alecmacher> am i not good enough? <alecmacher> because i got about 80 hours <alecmacher> im not telling you to rank me <alecmacher> im just asking you nicely if i am doing someting wrong <Ericrb> We pick when we pick. <Ericrb> Your story is different. <alecmacher> what do you mean? <alecmacher> im not getting higher rank because im from applecraft? <Ericrb> You come from a server that we almost had to shut down using legal rights. That's not a funny business and did a lot of trouble. <Ericrb> I did not decide your rank, I didn't even want any of APC members here. <alecmacher> its not about APC members <alecmacher> its about a game. <alecmacher> i could have come into this server without you knowing im form APC <Ericrb> But I know. <alecmacher> do you get my point? <Ericrb> The game is Minecraft. APC is minecraft, AITM is minecraft. <alecmacher> and 2nd im not the owner of the server <Ericrb> I said members not owner. <alecmacher> look. <alecmacher> if a random guy <alecmacher> came and then did all this stuff <alecmacher> and gets ranked <alecmacher> till artisan lets say <alecmacher> and then he tells you he is APC what would you do? <alecmacher> demote him? <Ericrb> We are a team. I can't decide. <alecmacher> when i say you im talking about the team <Ericrb> You are talking to me, I am not a team. <alecmacher> well where can i talk to the team <alecmacher> in forums? <alecmacher> youa re telling me ill shall put this in forums? <Ericrb> We already decide your rank, but sure if you wanna argue a little bit more, I'm always open to that. <alecmacher> ok so the team has decided a fixed rank for me right? <alecmacher> i can not rank up right? <alecmacher> is that what youa re telling me? <alecmacher> you are telling me you have discussed this with the experts and stuff? <Ericrb> We all have different opinions. <Ericrb> I'm the guy who's saying no cause I see no reason why I would say yes. <alecmacher> oh so thats how you think? <alecmacher> i see. <Ericrb> I am not the only GM in the server <Ericrb> This his how I need to think. <Ericrb> I need to follow the team. <Ericrb> I am not the leader of that team. <alecmacher> ok so what does the team say <alecmacher> ik you are not the leader of the team <alecmacher> isnt the elader onion? <Ericrb> He always followed us. Never need something "big" himself. <alecmacher> i understand that there is a team and all that stuff <alecmacher> so who is the leader? <alecmacher> who can i talk to discuss this <Ericrb> Lightning made you come here and we decid-... came to the conclusion that you were able to rank till mason or artisan. <Ericrb> There's no leader. <alecmacher> nononononono <alecmacher> po didnt decide that i shall come to the server <alecmacher> at first she decided it <alecmacher> she gave as the life boat <alecmacher> and i didnt take it <alecmacher> because i saw APC was in trouble so i tried to sustain it <alecmacher> then on the worst moment stan decided to shut it down <alecmacher> i wanted to play and i love minecraft so i just remembered AITM <alecmacher> and came here <alecmacher> i discussed this with some people <alecmacher> and they all agreed that all this would be forgotten <Ericrb> "all"? <alecmacher> well when i say all i say "the team"( as i thought it was at that time maybe i was worng) they came to the conclusion these was going to be forgotten <alecmacher> i see no reason why i shouldt get ranked <Ericrb> Well if someone wants to see you ranked, he/she gonna post. <Ericrb> I've seen nothing. <alecmacher> because they are afraid of it <alecmacher> eric. people are afraid <alecmacher> thye think on their own <Ericrb> I know that. <alecmacher> if they want to speak for another they wont <alecmacher> unless it risks theyre own rights <alecmacher> thats nature <alecmacher> welcome <alecmacher> ok so you have made me drive to a conclusion. i will post a topic in the forums. is that ok? <alecmacher> will you be okay if i posted the whole PM? <Ericrb> You'll ask for a rank? <alecmacher> no no asking for rank <alecmacher> its not what i want <alecmacher> what i want is to people to forget about what happened for real <alecmacher> if they want they can remember but dont paradigm themselves for not ranking me because of APC <alecmacher> can i quote you on some stuff? <Ericrb> If you post the log it's the whole thing. <alecmacher> i might post the whole log if i am requested to <alecmacher> if not ill just quote myself and your stuff <Ericrb> That make no sense, I just told you to post the whole thing, isn't that a request? <alecmacher> oh sorry for misunderstanding "if you post the log its the whole thing." i didnt ge tthe meassage <alecmacher> ok ill post everything <alecmacher> what is a adecuate title? <alecmacher> APC? My ranking? <alecmacher> Myself? <alecmacher> something nice that people would want to read <alecmacher> I LOST THE LOG <Ericrb> Want it back? <alecmacher> yea i lsot it i closed the tab <alecmacher> do you have it? Is there anything I can do to sort this out and come to a win-win conclusion? Thats all i think, -Alec Macher P.s po are you okay if i mentioned you as ms.Po? and i already asked eric to post the log as a reply. Thank you very much eric