fr499y 0 Posted October 2, 2012 new engine is in and is sweet as a nut, 20k ish on the new engine, and only just over 30k on the bike itself. Carbs need balancing as its running a bit like a dog between idle and 2k rpm. Also need to fix the lacquer on the fairing ( not a big deal though ) will have to grab some better pics Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanditMike 0 Posted October 3, 2012 Looks nice mate, and sounds like it's exactly what you were looking for Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanditMike 0 Posted October 3, 2012 Took the ace out today for the first time ( still need a few bits doing to it ) and HOLY MOTHER F*$@£%KING SH*T!! what a machine! The thing absolutely flies, Had the same effect when I first took the ZX out after getting off the Bandit. Still getting used to it as I haven't really opened it up yet I think it will be a moment if I ever do Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 3, 2012 I want something that go's a bit harder.Maybe not faster, just more horsepower.Give me time. I'm working on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 3, 2012 @BanditMike wrote:Had the same effect when I first took the ZX out after getting off the Bandit. Still getting used to it as I haven't really opened it up yet I think it will be a moment if I ever doIm used to the power on the zed but on this it kicks in the second you twist the throttle lol and its surprisingly comfy for a sports bike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dick65 0 Posted October 3, 2012 i said youd like it matt once you get the carbs balanced she'll be nice and smooth,you can see now why mine gets garaged in winter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 3, 2012 @dick65 wrote:i said youd like it matt once you get the carbs balanced she'll be nice and smooth,you can see now why mine gets garaged in winter I can indeed!! that beowulf got a nice sound to it without baffles as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dick65 0 Posted October 3, 2012 i bet it does im still running the stock can and its really quiet till about 6000 revs,i might be tempted by a nice hawk can though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 3, 2012 its got a slight hole in the headers so might have to buy new headers soon... might even get a full akra on it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GHRCanada 0 Posted October 3, 2012 Bike looks great. Not much of a sprt bike person myself but thats more to do with the fact I would need to dent the tank so I would have a place for my gut..lolHave fun but stay safe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner 0 Posted October 3, 2012 If you think thats fast can you imagine how fast this is with 193 bhp and quite a few kilos less weight http://www.pistonheads.com/doc.asp?c=52&i=26298 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted October 3, 2012 Take it you like it then looks a tidy bike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bladerunner 0 Posted October 3, 2012 @lee wrote:Take it you like it then if only they were a bit cheaper.. like 12 grand cheaper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 3, 2012 i like the bike for what it is... bmw are overpriced show off bikes. I could buy one tomoz if i wanted one, i could buy a busa, but i hate them, pointless bikes for the road. Anyway, wont be on the ace now for a while.. f****ng shitty builders at work left screws all over the place, need a new tyre now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madcarper 0 Posted October 3, 2012 nice looking bike does'ent look at all dated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 3, 2012 @fr499y wrote:I could buy one tomoz if i wanted one, i could buy a busa, but i hate them, pointless bikes for the road. Not sure why you'd think that.I've ridden both and put in serious miles with current owners.Both great bikes and both very useable evenat legal / sensible speeds.Yes, both total overkill as means of transport,but both huge fun and excellent at what they do.A 10 year old bike is still a lot of fun, but the BMW and Busa are a huge step forward,and the improvements are very noticeable.Not knocking older bikes, I have an 81 and a 99,love them both for what they are,but the new stuff is bloody good and useable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanditMike 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @fr499y wrote:@BanditMike wrote:Had the same effect when I first took the ZX out after getting off the Bandit. Still getting used to it as I haven't really opened it up yet I think it will be a moment if I ever doIm used to the power on the zed but on this it kicks in the second you twist the throttle lol and its surprisingly comfy for a sports bike I got off the B12, a nice "sit up and beg" onto the ZX12, so a much bigger shock for me I got the same effect on the long rides on the ZX. It's a lot more comfortable than the B12 for longer journeys, which did surprise me. Don't know whether it's the "slightly" sporty position or the fact on the ZX I'm not stretched out, or a combination of both? Either way, a nice bike to ride Enjoy the Ace Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @Tony nitrous wrote:@fr499y wrote:I could buy one tomoz if i wanted one, i could buy a busa, but i hate them, pointless bikes for the road. Not sure why you'd think that.I've ridden both and put in serious miles with current owners.Both great bikes and both very useable evenat legal / sensible speeds.Yes, both total overkill as means of transport,but both huge fun and excellent at what they do.A 10 year old bike is still a lot of fun, but the BMW and Busa are a huge step forward,and the improvements are very noticeable.Not knocking older bikes, I have an 81 and a 99,love them both for what they are,but the new stuff is bloody good and useable.Older sports bikes are more comfy for a start, new ones are too bent forward. I Don't see why 200BHP on a bike is very usable on the road... You can have way more fun on a bike you can use fully than a bike that every time you twist the throttle your thinking *i hope i don't get caught* Yes the new bikes are good but in my eyes its just companies showing off what they can do and competing to get the biggest most powerful bikes. Although the ace and zed both have a lot of power, there at the point of being a lot for the road, but plenty to get you out of trouble. This could easily cause an argument but its all about opinions and that is mine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 0 Posted October 4, 2012 my god I read the title and thought "what monster could this be . A B-King , Busa , a ZZR 1400"......nope its a Yamaha thunder ace. you then go on to say how much you enjoy the power and have also mentioned in previous threads how power is king, you then go onto say in this thread that Busa's are pointless for the road . How exactly are they pointless ? Can You explain Please using your vast knowledge of these bikes ? I spose its the world according to fr499y again ,if someone don't own a 400 quid lens their camera is shite , if someone don't own a tank full of marine fish then there 50p Goldfish is shite , if someone don't own the same bike as fr499y then their bike is shite . Stop blowing your own trumpet all the time and trying to show off its wearing a tad thin .oh and on about opinions , I think you are an asshole always have and always will . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @jezza wrote:my god I read the title and thought "what monster could this be . A B-King , Busa , a ZZR 1400"......nope its a Yamaha thunder ace. you then go on to say how much you enjoy the power and have also mentioned in previous threads how power is king, you then go onto say in this thread that Busa's are pointless for the road . How exactly are they pointless ? Can You explain Please using your vast knowledge of these bikes ? I spose its the world according to fr499y again ,if someone don't own a 400 quid lens their camera is shite , if someone don't own a tank full of marine fish then there 50p Goldfish is shite , if someone don't own the same bike as fr499y then their bike is shite . Stop blowing your own trumpet all the time and trying to show off its wearing a tad thin .oh and on about opinions , I think you are an asshole always have and always will .first up i said i like a torquey bike not a full out high HP bike, read the posts and you will see. there pointless in the fact you will never use all the power on the road unless your a reckless driving t**t.never said anyones camera is shit, and i never said anything about goldfish being shit and only marine is good ( its a tropical! not marine for a start )im not trying to show off at all... i thought the whole idea of the "bike pictures" section was to post pictures of um.. BIKES?yes your entitled to your own opinion, so if you think im a asshole so be it..What is it with you anyway... you have had it in for me pretty much from the start.. i have never said anyones stuff is shit but you seem to think i do... Or is it because i said i hate bandits ( as a opinion )? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 Some folk have strange idea's... If a rider has any ability, there bike will (within its ability)make as much or as little horsepower as their right hand tells it too.My bike makes exactly as much as yours when i want it to,the difference being I have extra on call when I require it.As I was told long a go, they dont make bikes "too big or too powerful"They only make riders who lack ability.You seem keen to put down others rides ?Perhaps I should have a go ?Have you done 10's of thousands of miles on bikes with good USD forks ?modern radial brakes ? fully re-mappable ECU's ? 160+hp ? 100ft/lb or torque ?Multiple engine modes ? Back torque limiters ?Maybe if you had, you'd realise the Chunderace is decidedly average and quite dated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @Tony nitrous wrote: Some folk have strange idea's... If a rider has any ability, there bike will (within its ability)make as much or as little horsepower as their right hand tells it too.My bike makes exactly as much as yours when i want it to,the difference being I have extra on call when I require it.As I was told long a go, they dont make bikes "too big or too powerful"They only make riders who lack ability.You seem keen to put down others rides ?Perhaps I should have a go ?Have you done 10's of thousands of miles on bikes with good USD forks ?modern radial brakes ? fully re-mappable ECU's ? 160+hp ? 100ft/lb or torque ?Multiple engine modes ? Back torque limiters ?Maybe if you had, you'd realise the Chunderace is decidedly average and quite dated.yes i have... like i said its my opinion, i dont see the point in high powered bikes for road use. Track bike would be a different story. I haven't put down other peoples rides ( apart from jezza's in last post ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 Its pointless arguing over bikes. We ride what we want, we know what we want out of a bike and thank f**k were not all the same... opinions are opinions, no one is right, no one is wrong. End of! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 You keep saying "high powered"That's one part of a modern bike,What makes them so nice is the grunt off the line,the huge torque, the excellent mid range.I know guys wih Busa's who rarely speed,the low to mid range makes bikes like the Busa/ZZR14/ZX12R/B-King etc etc a joy to ride.The difference between reving the tits off a 1300cc car, or haveing lazy V8 grunt.Funny how your amount of power is great, but those with more have too much ?You love the torque of your bike, yet those nice new bikes with more are only any good for a race track ?You sound silly... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @Tony nitrous wrote:You keep saying "high powered"That's one part of a modern bike,What makes them so nice is the grunt off the line,the huge torque, the excellent mid range.I know guys wih Busa's who rarely speed,the low to mid range makes bikes like the Busa/ZZR14/ZX12R/B-King etc etc a joy to ride.The difference between reving the tits off a 1300cc car, or haveing lazy V8 grunt.Funny how your amount of power is great, but those with more have too much ?i'll say it again. Its just my opinion on high HP bikes. Maybe this is the reason i prefer twins to inline fours as they have lower HP but still have the cracking amount of torque. The whole point of this topic was to post a pic of the new bike, and i was just saying how i liked the way the power is delivered. I find a lot of older bikes have a lot more torque than HP where as the newer ones dont, thats all i was getting at. If you like busa's fair enough, if you like the older style bikes like the XJR's and ZZR's then fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @fr499y wrote:I find a lot of older bikes have a lot more torque than HP where as the newer ones dont, thats all i was getting at. I think you'll find that most of the newtop end bikes make plenty of torque,My Busa and B-King would make more than a Chunder Ace.@fr499y wrote:bmw are overpriced show off bikes. I could buy one tomoz if i wanted one, i could buy a busa, but i hate them, pointless bikes for the road. I like lots of bikes, from little SV650's,to old Zed's and Kat's and a thousand others,but the idea that high performance bikes arent useableis utter nonsense. Fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 by that i meant ALL of the power in all the gears. I guess some times i don't make it very clear what i mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @fr499y wrote:by that i meant ALL of the power in all the gears. I guess some times i don't make it very clear what i mean. I guess thats where we are different.I'd hate to be able to use ALL the power,that would mean I was pushing and strainingmy bike to its absolute limit. More than I ever need means I can pick my speed and do itwith ease and the bike gets an easy life,which is how many Busa/King/ZX riders ride.Its good your happy with your bike... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 thats what makes us all different, what we like and dont like in a bike. No point arguing over it as not everyone will agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptolemyx 0 Posted October 4, 2012 All very good you guys getting all hot and bothered but why can't i see the pic????Old and DisgracefulOh, and by the way my "mildly" tuned B-King has 185bhp at the rear wheel - and it's still not enough for ME (just my opinion) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @fr499y wrote:What is it with you anyway... you have had it in for me pretty much from the start.. i have never said anyones stuff is shit but you seem to think i do... Or is it because i said i hate bandits ( as a opinion )?I wonder ! @fr499y wrote: I haven't put down other peoples rides ( apart from jezza's in last post ) : I think its been mentioned a few times on here your love of the busa , I for one have never put down anybodys ride.Have you ever done any distance or even ridden one one , I doubt it. You seem to pop up with these opinions all the time with little evidence and always come along with you've owned something better. maybe thats what gets peoples backs up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @jezza wrote:@fr499y wrote:What is it with you anyway... you have had it in for me pretty much from the start.. i have never said anyones stuff is shit but you seem to think i do... Or is it because i said i hate bandits ( as a opinion )?I wonder ! @fr499y wrote: I haven't put down other peoples rides ( apart from jezza's in last post ) : I think its been mentioned a few times on here your love of the busa , I for one have never put down anybodys ride.Have you ever done any distance or even ridden one one , I doubt it. You seem to pop up with these opinions all the time with little evidence and always come along with you've owned something better. maybe thats what gets peoples backs up!i've said it before YES i have ridden one and hated it, its long, its low and it aches like shit to ride one for me ( and in my eyes, the bking is a better bike ), so no i dont like them. I never say i own something better than someone else. if you seriously want a list of bikes i have owned or ridden then feel free to ask.. What i can say is the list goes from 125cc up to 1400cc from all makes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 I dont "hate" bikes because they dont suit me.That would be silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 im not saying i hate it because it didnt suit me, i just dont like them as a whole package. Maybe the new ones have lost what the busa was all about, either way there not a bike for me. I respect that people like them for what they are, there crazy manga inspired styling, big bold and aerodynamic body work, smooth engine, etc etc. What makes one person say *WOW* to a bike doesn't for someone else.One thing jezza, i get the feeling you think i'm lieing about bikes i've ridden/owned because of my age? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 Your not a fan of B-Kings then ?Same motor, longer wheelbase ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 B-king doesn't feel longer even though it is, might have something to do with the overall weight of the bike/style and feel when your on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 B-king is heavier than a Hayabusa too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 0 Posted October 4, 2012 still waiting for you to expand on the busa being a pointless bike. tick tock tick tock Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 not one for giving it a rest are you.. i was trying to do the right thing by not causing more of a argument than there has already been.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @jezza wrote:still waiting for you to expand on the busa being a pointless bike. tick tock tick tock I got told by a GS500 owner that Busa's don't handle and you can't go fast or far without a fairing (B-King) but he thought GS500's were great ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @fr499y wrote:not one for giving it a rest are you.. i was trying to do the right thing by not causing more of a argument than there has already been.... you stated the busa was pointless , back up your claim.if your going to say because its got too much power then you may as well put all sportsbikes in the over 600cc in the same catagory surely! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 0 Posted October 4, 2012 @Tony nitrous wrote:@jezza wrote:still waiting for you to expand on the busa being a pointless bike. tick tock tick tock I got told by a GS500 owner that Busa's don't handle and you can't go fast or far without a fairing (B-King) but he thought GS500's were great !you must have met my father in law. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted October 4, 2012 once again ( for the 100th time ) its my opinion, something everyone has. i could go on and on about why i think its pointless but its a opinion ( how many times do i need to say this before you drop it and stop trying to drag on a argument? ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted October 4, 2012 Can I remind you of the rules , "No personal attacks "/t2-rulesif you want to start calling names do it by Pm if you have to ,Everyone has the right to there opinion , Shame when I have to lock threads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites