Grumpyowl 0 Posted March 9, 2013 I know most of it is down to personal preference etcMy Hayabusa has original fitment bt015 m bridgestones which are good tyres no probs with them I'm due a new rear. They are sports tyres so mileage is secondary. For not too much more £ I can get Avon storm ultra 2 front and backThat should give out a lot more mileageAlso there are new michelin pilot road 3 2ct sports tourer tyres not listed for mine But could I safely use them.?They list the pilot power3 2ct. Sports tyres. I don't do track days like my week abroad and do like a bit of spirited road riding but not stupid within my limits..I did run Avon Azaros on my old Thunderaces which did suit the bike well That's why I'm attracted to the Avon storms. I want value for money but it is my hobby so will pay out if I have to. Any opinions ?Stick to the sports for my bike or go sport touring option Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted March 9, 2013 all I can say is I have road pilot 3's on my king and can't fault them , will deffo be useing them again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madsod 0 Posted March 9, 2013 I have Avon storm on one of my RF and can not fault them , did have michelin pilot on the GSXR , also a very good tyre , but for day to day use , i would go for the AVON ever time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smilinjack 0 Posted March 9, 2013 @Davehutch wrote:all I can say is I have road pilot 3's on my king and can't fault them , will deffo be useing them again +1. I'm sure Road Pilots will exceed your requirements mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted March 9, 2013 Im running bt023s and have got 3000 miles and i could most probably get another couple they are sports touring btw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dick65 0 Posted March 9, 2013 used michelin a lot but the Ace came with bridgestone 21's when those wore out put a pair of continental conti motions on last year and i cant fault them great wet grip as well,fitting a pair to the thundercat soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpyowl 0 Posted March 9, 2013 Thanks for the replies tyre questions are like asking how long is a piece of string. You've all given me plenty to think about Ta very much. Stu I've had Bt023 gt version with the strenghthend walls which would probably be better for the Busa yes I thought they were very good. everyone Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted March 10, 2013 @Grumpyowl wrote:Thanks for the replies tyre questions are like asking how long is a piece of string. You've all given me plenty to think about Ta very much. Stu I've had Bt023 gt version with the strenghthend walls which would probably be better for the Busa yes I thought they were very good. everyone Dave Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted March 11, 2013 well seing as you asked about 2 types of tyre, the storm 2 ultra are bloody brilliant! Had them on the zed through winter. Warmed up quickly, had 3,000 miles on them and still looked like new! they come out a bit on the large side so a 190 for my zed turned out to be 196 so the 190 on the busa might be a good choice ( most go down from 200 to 190 anyway ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpyowl 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @fr499y wrote:well seing as you asked about 2 types of tyre, the storm 2 ultra are bloody brilliant! Had them on the zed through winter. Warmed up quickly, had 3,000 miles on them and still looked like new! they come out a bit on the large side so a 190 for my zed turned out to be 196 so the 190 on the busa might be a good choice ( most go down from 200 to 190 anyway ) Very interesting reply this. The Busa runs a 190/50 anyway I think the King has the 200.Like a kid in a sweet shop I had almost made my mind up about the Michelins. When I've run Avons before I've liked them and a pair of Avons fitted to lose wheels are about £50 cheaper.Real food for thought here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @Grumpyowl wrote:@fr499y wrote:well seing as you asked about 2 types of tyre, the storm 2 ultra are bloody brilliant! Had them on the zed through winter. Warmed up quickly, had 3,000 miles on them and still looked like new! they come out a bit on the large side so a 190 for my zed turned out to be 196 so the 190 on the busa might be a good choice ( most go down from 200 to 190 anyway ) Very interesting reply this. The Busa runs a 190/50 anyway I think the King has the 200.Like a kid in a sweet shop I had almost made my mind up about the Michelins. When I've run Avons before I've liked them and a pair of Avons fitted to lose wheels are about £50 cheaper.Real food for thought here yes the king was 200 but was advised to go 190/55 and it works well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted March 11, 2013 my bad got them mixed up heh If you really wanna throw a spanner in the works, then the new Avon 3D Ultra Supersport are cracking tyres ( They replaced the VP2 supersport which i loved ) more sporty than the storm 2 ultra's but still have a good life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpyowl 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @fr499y wrote:my bad got them mixed up heh If you really wanna throw a spanner in the works, then the new Avon 3D Ultra Supersport are cracking tyres ( They replaced the VP2 supersport which i loved ) more sporty than the storm 2 ultra's but still have a good life Bloody hell I'm confused enough I must be sad getting this excited about new tyres What I really need is A Flaming Hot summer to use them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @Grumpyowl wrote:@fr499y wrote:my bad got them mixed up heh If you really wanna throw a spanner in the works, then the new Avon 3D Ultra Supersport are cracking tyres ( They replaced the VP2 supersport which i loved ) more sporty than the storm 2 ultra's but still have a good life Bloody hell I'm confused enough I must be sad getting this excited about new tyres What I really need is A Flaming Hot summer to use them I drink to that jim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptolemyx 0 Posted March 11, 2013 Whilst a lot of people are very happy with the Avon Storm tyres I've heard of several who found them "vague" in the wet and a couple of unwanted/ unpredictable slides in the wet. Also one completely delaminated on a BMW, though I haven't heard of another going that way. That being said, all the sports and sports/touring tyres from the major manufacturers are excellent on our bigger bikes and their capabilities far exceed our mere mortal ability. The 190/55 rear section is so much better than the stock 200/50 on the B-King, so I expect this size would be equally good on the Busa. FWIW I currently have Dunlop Qualifier 2s on the B-King for road use and a super sticky Shinko drag rear for quarter mile racing.Old and Disgraceful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @Davehutch wrote:@Grumpyowl wrote:@fr499y wrote:well seing as you asked about 2 types of tyre, the storm 2 ultra are bloody brilliant! Had them on the zed through winter. Warmed up quickly, had 3,000 miles on them and still looked like new! they come out a bit on the large side so a 190 for my zed turned out to be 196 so the 190 on the busa might be a good choice ( most go down from 200 to 190 anyway ) Very interesting reply this. The Busa runs a 190/50 anyway I think the King has the 200.Like a kid in a sweet shop I had almost made my mind up about the Michelins. When I've run Avons before I've liked them and a pair of Avons fitted to lose wheels are about £50 cheaper.Real food for thought here yes the king was 200 but was advised to go 190/55 and it works well Similar scenario to mine. Standard factory fitment is 190/50 but a lot of owners recommend going to 190/55. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpyowl 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @ptolemyx wrote:Whilst a lot of people are very happy with the Avon Storm tyres I've heard of several who found them "vague" in the wet and a couple of unwanted/ unpredictable slides in the wet. Also one completely delaminated on a BMW, though I haven't heard of another going that way. That being said, all the sports and sports/touring tyres from the major manufacturers are excellent on our bigger bikes and their capabilities far exceed our mere mortal ability. The 190/55 rear section is so much better than the stock 200/50 on the B-King, so I expect this size would be equally good on the Busa. FWIW I currently have Dunlop Qualifier 2s on the B-King for road use and a super sticky Shinko drag rear for quarter mile racing.Old and Disgraceful ptolemyxI think I'm going to give the mich road 3 agoThe standard size is 190/50Why do you king guys go for the 55 profile over the 50?Jim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 0 Posted March 11, 2013 The 55 has a more triangular profile than the 50 also turns in a little quicker and tends to not square off so quick. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @Robbie wrote:The 55 has a more triangular profile than the 50 also turns in a little quicker and tends to not square off so quick.and it does Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @Davehutch wrote:@Robbie wrote:The 55 has a more triangular profile than the 50 also turns in a little quicker and tends to not square off so quick.and it does I know 'cause I just said it Although I may be corrected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted March 11, 2013 @Robbie wrote:@Davehutch wrote:@Robbie wrote:The 55 has a more triangular profile than the 50 also turns in a little quicker and tends to not square off so quick.and it does I know 'cause I just said it Although I may be corrected Jim was asking "Why do you king guys go for the 55 profile over the 50?"In reply to your answer I said "and it does" because I have rode the KING with both profiles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 0 Posted March 12, 2013 And I was being sacastic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptolemyx 0 Posted March 12, 2013 This muppet has had stock 200/50, 190/50 and 190/55 rear tyres on B-kings from various mainstream manufacturers. Whilst I haven't really noticed much difference between makes of tyre ("normal" road riding) I really noticed how much better at turning in to a corner and changing line the 190/55 section is. That said my drag race Shinko is 190/50 which has a much larger upright contact patch than my road tyre.Old and Disgraceful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpyowl 0 Posted March 19, 2013 Thanks for your opinions. Slight change of plans Went for just changing the back cheapest option as front is fine. Bridgestone BT015 m fitment 190/50. £139 fitted to loose wheelValve and balance. Will do me for this year then get the Power road 3s next spring Bought Cardo Scala team set pro intercom so her indoors can Nag at me when we're both out on bike. Faster Grumpy Faster NOT.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites