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Amen sister!

Gosh dude! I personally read and respond to some people. If I do not feel led to do so .I cannot do so in all honesty. I personally do not know people on this sight. So I speak for my self. If you feel as angry as you sound. I would encourage you to go off with your bible. And seek the Lord. He is a big boy and he can handle what you have to say. Your victory is in…. finding in him a place of confession and prayer . Be honest and he will show up. It may really seem you are passed by. But you are here seeking answers…RIGHT? Then listen with your hart what is said. Sunshine

Hello Andrew, I am unsure the translation you are using. The words in deferent translations …can change or add to a scripture. I like the King James , when searching into dept on scriptures and meanings. In the kj, it says 1Co 4:15 For though ye have ten thousand iiinstructors in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: There seems to be a division as to the asp Paul’s authority he is pointing out to the church. . That they might have thousands of instructors but he was as a father to them. He was a soul winner and its possible he had led some of the church to Christ. He saw him self as a spiritual father to them. and had won the right to give them scriptural correction and advice. . And was pleading with the church as a father. This scripture must be under stood as one reads the entire chapter. To me a guide is not really the proper word in this text.. But a guide does lead one. Hope this helps sunshine

This is in a topic many may not read. I think the part about drawing near the Lord .Really help full and worth printing, else where maybe under a topic called worship. sunshine

I felt so strongly to pray for you last evening. Know that the Lord feels for you. Casting all your care upon him for he cares for you. The thing is people have their own mindset and as much. As the Lord loves them they are still free to make their own choices. Having known the Lord in his full ness and now turned from that. Some times people really get difficult to cope with. (I know) I am praying for your wisdom and strength and for him to return to the Lord. sunshine

I hope things are better for you . Do you have a pastor whom you can talk to? In thinking about your response. I am sorry any advice I gave became a problem. In my thinking I would go before the Lord. In my own privet prayer time.

I would encourage you the Lord is faith full . The Lord is your answer and he is your strength. The world we live in makes it easy to fill our ever-wakening hour with some thing. It seems from a women’s point of view. SOME men have to do their thing. Trouble is it can affect others in a very negative way. As a Christian man he must be miserable in side. It’s easy to blame others for ones own misery. At the same time. You may be the only one standing in the pray gap for him. .Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. [b]sunshine[/b]

Just a note.I think its more a spiritual problem. You said he once was on fire for the Lord. He may have strayed from the Lord. But the Lord doesn’t go away that easy. It’s easier to blame others for ones behavior than face up to real growth and chance. He may feel guilty personally for his drinking. And under convection for his backsliding. I would start to pray for his strength to return to the Lord. It’s also a known fact men often blame their wife’s. So they have an excurse to drink. Sorry guys! Not ever guy is like this but it’s a distorted world some times. Sunshine

Hi Vile , Haven’t been on here in some time. I sure hope you are not discouraged ,disappointed with some peoples replies to you . People are so....human and can miss under stand easily. I will miss you .Sunshine

Thanks for your kind thoughts and encouraging words. I have come to accept dreams and make effort to better under stand the lord. I feel to many times the works of the Lord are said to be of the devil. Christians have some thing special the world and the devil cannot give. It’s high time we embraced our spiritual heritage. Even good people some times can be a stumbling block to ones faith. Not ever thing said to be of the lord is of the Lord. We are told to try the spirits to see if they be of the lord. (John) If we think a dream is telling us to sin or leads away from the truth of the word. Some thing is wrong some where. I honestly think some of the problem comes into this dreams area. Because we think we under stand. Some times acting upon what we think has been said. . Gets a person in a great deal of trouble. I believed a thing was being said in a dream in fact several dreams. When it came to pass and did not work out the way. I thought it should have. It took a little time to get back up.I felt stupid and defeated. Only I knew the dream or the out come. It was at a time I had not accepted dreams in the lord. But it was a testing time where I struggled with my self. it seems christians have to battle for what is theirs in the Lord. Some years …later I came full cycle and realized .The dreams were of the Lord but did not imply what I thought. Humble Pie!! Praise the lord. Judy :snow:

Thanks for sharing on Abram. I picked this dream because I could see it was a dream of deep meaning. Maybe others will share also. I know some dreams could be of the devil. But that is not my first thought on difficult or complicated dreams. In the entire Old and New Testament, I do not see one dream where it is said it was of the devil. I am not saying that it is not possible. I am new to understanding in this area. (There is a reference to filthy dreamers.) I have had dreams for years. Why? Or what is the Lord saying? I have shared with other Christians who said “That’s not of God; you had best pray that the dreams stop.” This study of dreams is encouraging. It helps see how God responds to the human side of us. I had someone say the only time God speaks in dreams is when you will not listen any other way. I know better than that. But there are so many discouraging things even in Christian circles. I posted under teachings. Do you have a dream from the scriptures you would like us to discuss? Judy

Gen.15 1/18 I think your insight a blessing. Here is what I received from the scriptures as well. Gen.15 I think the vision went into a dream state. In this state the lord began to have a conversation with Abram. Even though it started as a vision. Abram recognized it was the lord. He did not show doubt as to who was speaking to him. The lord began where Abram was in his life. He had just returned from a battle with the kings. Perhaps Abram feared others in the land. Because the first thing the Lord said to him was fear not, I am thy shield or protector. Abram showed a very human side saying he had no children. To this the lord also responded. It is said Abram believed God. It was counted as righteous. It was a real hart felt response to the Lord. Abram was in a right relationship with god. Abram was called to leave his homeland and follow the Lord.(12/1) Perhaps that was just the beginning of baby steps of faith. This vision into dream, seems to ask him to take a deeper walk of faith. The other interesting thing in this vision. God made a covenant with him. It was the custom when interning into agreement between two parties. That slaughtered animals lay in two half’s. The parties making the agreement would walk between them. In this case the Lord as represented by a smoking furnace and a burning lamp. The Lord alone establishes the promises and obligations of the covenant Abrams part was to believe and trust god to keep that word as established. This dream went to the hart of Abrams desires. It also establishes a walk with God to all generations (The spiritual children who believe and accept Christ by faith) We are blessed because this man in a vision- dreams state. (he believed god spoken word. Just think of the entire impact this dream had upon this mans spirit and mine. Looking back we can see the prophecy given in this dream did in fact come true. Verse13/14 Horror of great darkness.. He could have felt or saw the affliction of his descendents. This dream foreshowed a life changing events that lay ahead. He had to have a strong believing spirit to under stand. This vision dream covered many areas of Abrams life. 5 judy

Ok, I will try to move this subject to bible study .I am still learning to get around on this sight. I do believe the first dream recorded in the Old Testament. Was with Abram in a vision and later he fell asleep. And the Lord continued to speak to him in a dream state. Lets start there Genesis 15/1-18 Why was this vision given? What was the purpose? How was the dream or vision received? Asking questions like that. I think it may help to see from scripture the ways of the lord. In dealing with other people in dreams and visions. I will try to post in bible study section but I have to find it first. I looked this morning and do not see a bible section? I may be getting in over my head on this one. Maybe others will feel inspired to . Judy

great thoughts Lola ! Keep up the good work and share. Judy

your welcome ,god is good been there many a time... Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus. judy