Grey Butterfly

Hi guys :)

A couple of old dreams that seem clearer to me now...

Both of them have a hat that is fairly key to opening up areas in the dream that were previously unseen.

What could a hat that is like a key be symbolic of??

(They were both black top hats I think)

thanks :) :)

Thanks Mark :)  

I'm really grateful for what you posted... the verse is very significant, it answers something that has been on my heart for ages.

Before going to Church that day I had been feeling like I was trapped under an upturned glass... and for the days leading up to my spontaneous decision to visit this church I had prayed that God would either change my life or take it.

The first song at church that day was about God having changed my sadness to joy... I didn't feel like singing that!   But then I relaxed and began to worship him, telling him in my heart that it didn't matter what else happened in my life, I would still worship him because he is worth it!!

I began to sing "You're all I need" in the midst of the song, a message from just me to my God.

The next song began and then about 4 lines in there was a line that said "You're all I'll ever need"  I smiled, He obviously wanted to hear me sing that a bit more - and with everyone else too!  

There was a song about breaking chains... I imagined that glass being broken and I tentatively put my arms out to the sides, half expecting to encounter the glass - it felt ridiculously good to feel nothing but air around me!  

Just as I was marvelling over that, another line said "I can break the strongholds of the enemy" and I felt like I was re-energised as I sang that, tears flowed... there are a lot of enemy strongholds that seem to be unwinnable to me at the moment - things I care about but cannot seem to change.    There are personal things... and a calling I am not following (this is where the verse you gave me is significant).   But at that time in church, I was thinking about the bigger things, about the refugees and how ashamed I am to be Australian with our cruelly posturing government who is up for election... and the Orangutans... Child sexual slavery... there is so much cruelty in us as humans and it was weighing me down with grief.   In that few moments I felt the strength of the one who can change all that.

Then sometime in there, I had the vision.

Thanks Mark, I will be encouraged :)   I am glad that it is coming!

Blessings to you... I am glad that you consider me your friend :) :)

Diane

Hi guys,

I was worshiping (during singing) at a church service.

I saw myself overlaid with an image of a shell/nut/seed... kind of like a pistachio. I cracked open (I could still see me, but in the spirit the image was me) I was just thinking about what it meant to be a dry dead seed that had cracked open when I felt and saw a green shoot burst out of my chest and grow (really fast) upward. the shoot was wide and healthy and large, proportionate to the size of the seed - which was "me sized" :)

I wanted to see what it would become, but that was it, beyond that I would have been pushing the vision and imagining it for myself.

I'm praying about it, but any thoughts?

Ta, Di :)

Wow.... praise God! :)

Warning dreams are not necessarily unavoidable guarrantees of a negative outcome I love that! And, I agree that God can and does change the outcome when we pray! I really love that he still let the dream "manifest" so you could see it and know... :)

Blessings to you, and thank you to our creative and caring Father! You are amazing God! :) :)

So glad Mark :)

Hi Mark,

Praying that Saturday you are all safe!

In the dream, your StepDad is in the front, that makes sense for driving... I don't know if he is someone who would accept a warning from a dream?? If I were you I'd be tempted to offer to drive :) It would certainly pay to be a cautious driver that day!

Father God, i pray for Mark and his family, I pray that you will have angels watching over them and guarding their car as they drive, may they arrive at their destination safely!

As for the symbolic possibilities, it is good to be forewarned isn't it, in the dream, you seem to take a role of leadership in this: "They seemed to be ok, but I knew we needed to get them out. I got out of where I was (near the back) and headed to the front. My real father was being his normal self...which is to say, not normal. He wasn't responding appropriately to the situation, and I said something that disregarded his foolishness and focused everyone on getting the others out."

Father I thank you for forewarning Mark so that he is ready and can pray about whatever is coming and be ready to step up and help focus his family. thank you Lord for the grace you have shown and for the strength you will impart to Mark, right at the time he needs it, so that he can pass it on to others. Father I ask that you surround Mark and his family, particularly his StepDad, give them peace and calm. Thank you too Father that in the dream everyone is ok... they just need help to get out...

It seems that there is both fear and comfort to be found in this dream. Mark, I pray that the manifestation is less intense than the dream, and I pray you are all ok.

Blessings, Diane

Hi Mark,

I think that makes sense... it does seem like it will be unexpected.

"Blind side..." "uncontrolled intersection..." "no stop sign..." it doesn't seem to me that it is something you can stop, but after it, everyone is ok.

Mark, is your family ever/often all together like this?? You were not happy about your real father being in the middle of things, does this happen in your real, day to day life or is this part an oddity? If the manifestation was news of your Step Dad's Mother, would that be something your real father would be present for?

Hope this helps :) Hope that the dream is overblown - and that it isn't literal... I pray God helps you to discern the dream and to know what to do with it.

Blessings, Di :)

Hi Mark :)

What is a UPS truck??

Is it relevant that this is the truck that hits?

Blessings to you :) :) Diane

Hi Chi,

So sad for you :(   It is such a shock when someone dies and you don't expect it!   I pray for comfort for you - and for peace in your heart over this one who was dear to you.

The bare feet stood out to me.   I don't know why, was it something that she liked?  To be barefoot?  I thought of Moses, taking off his shoes because he was standing on Holy Ground...

Perhaps you saw her worshiping as a part of "your" church, but with people you don't [yet?] know... Perhaps this dream was not the opposite of what happened in real life, but meant for your comfort because she was about to go worship in Heaven.

I'm no interpreter, and I never would have guessed from your dream that she was about to pass away, if that was not now hindsight... I'm just telling you what popped into my head when I read your dream.  I hope it helps you discern what God has for you in this dream, but if it doesn't help or fit, then please discard it :)  

Blessings to you.  xx

Thanks Mark :)

You are always a great help! I will pray.

Blessings to you, Diane

Hi everyone :)

A couple of nights ago I dreamed that a boy (an older teen) was beaten up and stabbed in the stomach. I was beside him (after) and so was my daughter... we were visiting him in hospital I think. I felt like I was intruding (or just that he might think it odd that I am there I guess) because he is my daughters friend, but I felt brokenhearted and could barely speak to ask him if I can pray for him, (before I go and allow my daughter to visit.) I pray for him then and in the dream am visualising the stab wound healing from the inside.

The emotion in this dream was very strong.

I would appreciate any thoughts :) Blessings, Diane

Ha-ha... you make me laugh :)

Thanks again for letting God use you to help!

Blessings, Di

Thanks Dreamster,

What you have said makes heaps of sense... it even makes the scarf dream make sense too... I have disagreed with my husband and it seems that in doing so, I may have "taken off his covering" in the situation (which is to do with church and the other person in the dream) I think I need to pray (a lot) and be humble.

Blessings D :)

Diane

Hi Dreamster,

Yep, married... :) No changes there...

But, it is part of another dream, I posted it under is the backyard always about the past - or something like that :) I will look at it with what you've said in mind. My husband was not a part of the dream, but church was.

Blessings to you Dreamster!

Thanks, Di :)

Hi all,

Just wonder what you think it means to be wearing a head covering, like a scarf in a dream ? (It was important in the dream) and I took it off, that was important too.

Blessings and thanks :O)

Hi guys,

If something happens in a backyard in the dream, can I assume that it is talking about the past?

I dreamed that something was thrown at my children, which damaged them. (a symbol was used that I know means them, the symbolic thing got crushed and broken) it happened in the backyard in the dream, and the person who harmed them tried to clean up the mess. It was not irreparable damage, it would heal.

So, what I am wondering is about the timing... does it happening in the back yard mean that it is in the past? I know that there has been some damage done by the person in the dream in real life, but just as in the dream, they will heal...

The dream moved on then, and I am inclined to think that the parts I need to focus on are the latter parts, because perhaps the backyard part is like a time marker.

The dream then goes down the side of the building and out a (broken) front gate into the front yard of a church I used to go to... as a teenager. I notice that a funeral is about to happen. I am going to go into the funeral... (I tell my mother - as if I were still a teen and had to let her know what I was doing) the deceased persons name is Frank. IRL, I know a "Frank" but I don't believe it is him, I believe it is more to do with the word Frank and my relationship with the person who threw something that hit my kids... it is the person I have walked out to the front, through the broken gate with. In this part of the dream, the person is carrying a leaf blower-vac... they put it down when I ask them to, and follow me to the front door of the church - we have to wait for the song to end before they will let us in to the funeral service which is half over... there is 1/2 hour to go.

I'm not really looking for interpretation of the violet bit, I need to pray about it and seek what God is telling me, I just put it so that you can see how the dream moves areas and see why I am thinking that this movement is symbolic of timing. The feelings I have in the dream are all calm, like I know what I am doing, and all is okay... they are quite positive. It is just after waking up and knowing what the symbols often mean to me that I am going well hang on a minute, that part is not really okay at all!!! I don't want to miss what could be a warning about my kids because I am thinking it is in the past.
Anyway, thanks for your help,

Blessings,

Diane

Hi Jesus,

I ask that the person sees the four people coming and that something happens to allow them to get away, if there are others with them, Father I pray that your mercy will allow them to escape with this one that you have highlighted to Mia, let them be like the passengers and crew on the ship with Paul when it was going to sink, they were foolish, but you graciously saved them along with Paul, not one died even though the ship was lost.

I pray for calm that gives them time... make it almost seem like slow motion while they are in it, so they can think and they can pray and they get away.

I pray for the four people coming to do harm Jesus, please soften their hearts too, put an angel with a flaming sword in their way as you did with Balaam to try to stop him... in that instance Lord, you gave voice to a donkey! Please don't let these people carry out their plan without having to cross you, let them see that what they are doing is wrong and give them an opportunity to stop and turn around before they go there. Gracious Father, your arm is not too short to save! You are God, you are love and you will rush to the rescue of your children!

Let us not forget to uphold these people... let us never hear the story because the disaster is averted... or let it be some small thing that is tucked away behind more sensational headlines, and let it be a story of turn around, not a story of tragedy.

For this one person, if it is your plan to save just this one, I pray covering, I pray for Angels wings to surround them, make them invisible to those who would harm them, make your protection of them like a fortress, an impenetrable wall, let them flee to safety. Thank you that you are a Father who loves them enough to ask us to pray.

Amen

Hi Ally,

Does any part of the dream resemble anything from real life? Like the hiding perhaps?

Did you have any feelings in the dream? I can see the feeling of lightness there, any others? Mia wrote something great about feelings in dreams, I will find a link for you :) /t9505-feelings-in-dreams She said: "In dreams, the dreamers feelings often foretell what they WILL feel during the manifestation of the dream in the future! Another value of feelings in dreams, they give me an answer as to what is the outcome.

It is just my opinion, but maybe you've had this dream for someone else? If it were me, I would pray about it as if that were the case, I would pray for whomever it ended up being, and I would pray for wisdom to be there at the right time if God called me to help them.

That's not an interpretation Ally :) It's just what I would do with it if it were my dream.

Blessings :) Diane

Perhaps the impossible timing of the message, and the fact is written on the wall in the church is significant?

There is a saying "the writing is on the wall" which is based on an incident in Daniel 5. It was not good news for the King Belshazzar in that instance, and the saying generally means an ending.

If this dream does reinforce the ending between you, perhaps it is also showing you the beauty in your own church for a reason?? Had you been attending his church perhaps? does the ending of this relationship involve going back to your own church?

I don't know you amt, so if any of this doesn't fit, just keep going with discerning your own dream, in either case, please keep praying and stay close to God... the answers are wrapped up in him, he is the author :o)

Blessings to you, I pray that your heart will heal and acceptance of your loss will settle over you and feel like a cool cloth on a hot day. I pray you will be drawn deeper into the heart of God and that you will seek and find your acceptance and love in him.

Diane

Hi Amt,

Welcome to the site :o)

I'm not an interpreter, but I wanted to ask some questions if that's ok?

It seems to me from the way you said it that you are no longer in relationship with this person? But it also seemed like perhaps you want to be?

Did you have any feelings in the dream? It seems like you were feeling a kind of peace, even wonder in the beginning and then it seemed like you may have been feeling either annoyed or panic??

Whatever your feelings were, have you been feeling that way in real life at all?

Blessings to you :o)

Diane

Hi Tarzan :o)

I saw your comment about the post... and have seen a couple of your other comments, I hear your frustration.... I want to encourage you to stick with it here, to accept the way it is run and work within the boundaries until the moderators open the gate for you... you are here for help with your dreams, yes? I have found that there are a lot of people here who are really good at interpretation and they freely offer to share what they know...

I imagine it is hard when you come here and are used to operating in the area of dreams... but the experience was very different for me, I came here knowing nothing much, with a bunch of dream dictionaries and a hope that somehow I might be able to begin to make sense of it.

I read what Mia said about seeking God first and went "oops, I shouldn't be posting dreams for interpretation!" She didn't mean that of course, she just wanted to point out that when God is the author of the dream, he is the very best one to go to for the interpretation of it :o) I got that.

Then, when I read that Mia said to be careful when offering interpretations to others, I went overboard and said three times per post that I could be wrong LOL.

I have been helped a lot here, I felt safe here. I do understand most of my dreams now, usually pretty quickly too. I'm beginning to be able to help others with their dreams, but only if I pray... I think for me it is a heart thing too, I can only help at all if it engages my heart and I feel compassion for the person... I think that is a God thing :o)

I enjoyed imagining you slapping your keyboard in joy I believe you have a lot to offer Tarzan, hang around long enough to let people see that and learn to trust you. :o)

Much love, Diane

:o) Hi Tarzan, I am glad you are okay :o)

I did read your earlier response before it was deleted... and I went away and prayed some more when I realised that what I had seen was correct... it actually made it harder to say what I felt about the second dream because I felt for Kristen... it is easier to be wrong sometimes!

I thought you had deleted your response... which made me worry about you guys - I'm glad it was a glitch of some kind :o)

Anyway, I prayed and I stayed burdened for you both until I wrote the response... I will keep praying for you both as you work through it, I hope that you are able to listen to one another and come to a place of togetherness on spiritual/biblical issues, as you are in other areas. I pray that it won't become a stumbling block or a wall between you... I pray that the togetherness you find in hearing one another will indeed be as precious as adopting a child and bringing it into your family.



Diane

Thanks Tarzan :o)

It is a different take on the dream... :o) Thanks for taking the time to look all those things up! It has been good to look at it again...

I could feel again the sense of urgency and the pain and discomfort of this dream as I was reading it and thinking through what you shared. It is a message... an important one, and I still don't know what to do with it beyond taking it on board myself... I see so often that the church today leaves people feeling like they are "only human" and thinking that God has gone to sleep or something. We have such low expectation, low faith, and you are right, the church is sleeping.

I'm not discounting what you have said, but I'm not sure, because I know that it was "Genevieve" that the surgeon was burning into her forehead, not Roger... the study mate is the only one who called her that.

If the Study mate is the Holy Spirit, then of course, he would know her character better than anyone. It makes sense that the Holy Spirit would give us revelation of our sins - he does convict us, and he does it gently, not like the doctor... and this dream is definitely of the "come out and be separate" variety. But it doesn't make sense that the evil minister would burn her true destiny into her forehead... (There was more to it than her name, but I don't remember what the other words were. I do know that Roger was not one of them... the other words were characteristics, adjectives to describe her...) his aim was to belittle and punish, to overwrite her mind with what he wanted in it, because she dared to say no to him... and he didn't care if he killed her. I couldn't believe she was there again the next day! We do keep going back to what we know and are comfortable with though don't we!

I have taken the message for me in the dream to be a definite denunciation of the "system" of church, the whole organizational/demoninational thing... and that it is a choice we each make to be in that system and allow it to determine who we are and how we live... or to come out, to hop in the car with our beautiful betrothed and ride away into the desert (that was the setting by the way... the carpark and the building are on the edge of a desert.) it makes me think that we are called out into the wilderness with our God, individually and as a church (I think that the invitation is there for me, but it is also there for the whole church, to go and be like Israel in the wilderness).

It strikes me now that she asked if there was petrol in the car... she was asking if he had the means to take her into the wilderness, to sustain her so she would not have to go back in to the Doctor... your point about pain driving her back was good... she is driven back to the Doctor, it is not what she wants or what is good for her, but she doesn't have faith to believe for the journey!

Thanks for this new take on it Tarzan, I will be praying on it, it was helpful, it made me think of it in a new light... I have a calling on my life that I know I have been struggling with for a long time for various reasons, one of which would be the worry about God sustaining and providing what I need. I thought I had that faith, but today I can see that I have been hesitant and stuck.

I don't see that I can do anything about "the church" choosing to align itself more and more with the world apart from pray and talk with people as God gives opportunity to, but I guess that as I go about what God has called me to do, I can do it with open eyes, knowing that this is a part of the problem, and feeling the urgency to intervene that I felt after this dream and also the horror of disloyalty - the sadness that I would deeply feel if I were to disown or disappoint my Lord.

Anyway, I am rambling a bit now, so I will stop :o)

Thanks Tarzan, blessings to you, I can see far more clearly what to do with this dream now than I could before. Thanks :o)

Diane

Hi Tarzan,

I struggled with what I thought about Kristen's second dream... It seems quite personal and confronting and I felt uncomfortable speaking about it when it wasn't to Kristen and I don't know her at all. I hope that Kristen is ok with her dream being here and I pray that this response will wash over her gently and not harm.

I felt that Kristen's shock at your shooting the people in the dream was a feeling she has at times. I think that at times in real life, she doesn't agree with you and yet she doesn't speak up. I believe that perhaps Kristen doesn't feel she can speak up when she disagrees. In the dream, it takes something meaningful for her, the baby, to draw out her compassion and make her anxious, and get her to speak what she is feeling.

When she does, you see her point and agree with her and it ends well.

I was reluctant to answer in this way, because if what I have said is true, then she will quite likely feel very vulnerable. But then, she shared this dream with you and that is very brave, so she has strength.

It struck me that the baby was the only one who was truly a baby, and was legitimately in need of care and not just behaving like it was a baby when it should be mature.

It struck me that you played with them and were kind and loving and then kissed their foreheads before shooting them in the same spot... the forehead is the place where God marks his people. It is also the frontal lobe area, the place where our personality and our perceptions of who we are reside (I found this out after a dream I had that was particularly disturbing for me /t12203-we-are-not-only-human which involved the forehead) The bit that stood out in this, was the kissing them and then shooting them in the same place, is there a time in real life where something like that happens? When you touch the same place in people, gently and then harshly? I am thinking that this may be with words?? Do you teach people or pastor people perhaps? Immature Christians who should be beyond milk?

Kristen stood back with all of the people until you came to one who was genuinely a baby and she became anxious, she wanted this one to be nurtured and brought into your family.

I'm sorry that i didn't say any of this before, I find it hard to do that online where I can't guarantee that people will read what I say in the tone that I say it... I hope that it helps, I hope that Kristen feels okay after what I have said... (and you too Tarzan) blessings to you :)

Diane

Hi Den,

A couple of weeks ago I dreamed i saw the tiniest sliver of light, like the sun rising and I knew that Jesus was coming. I was so excited I wanted to wake up my husband and tell him and I wanted to run through the street and shout it. It was not the time of night when that would be appreciated so I didn't, but I couldn't sleep much after that.

God said in the OT that he doesn't do anything without announcing it first, maybe he will start giving lots of people these kinds of dreams??????

I don't know, but it would be so good to see him! Makes me feel urgent about telling people about him, and his kingdom :)

This is obviously not an interpretation of your dream :) just sharing.

Blessings, Diane

Hi Tarzan,

Blessings to you and to your wife :o)

I do have some thoughts on the dreams your wife had... they were coming to me as I was reading. I got to the bottom and read your exhortation and thought "Whoa, I cannot answer that way" and I was going to just not... However, I am here because I want to learn to hear God for myself and to help people with their dreams, and I believe you have given permission for me/us to just give you what I have and allow you to test it for yourself. You have always been gracious to me, even when I have said quite difficult things, so I will give you the thoughts that came to me when I was reading.

I got the impression that your wife needs to [or feels the need to] stand up to your mother, even if her husband doesn't like it. (I would normally ask that as a question if Kristen were posting it... )

I also got the impression that she feels like/or does make mistakes and feels like others look down on her. (this thought came because of the way she worded the part where she is apologising to Big Chris at the bookcase... and normally of course, I would have asked her if there were times she felt that way in real life)

Anyway, that is what I got from the first dream.... and I think I will stop there :)

Blessings, Diane