Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted May 17, 2012 The other week when on the B-king rideout I got a little to confident and nearly had a off, I was riding really well it was a fast pace , I entered a left corner and hit some gravel felt the front go , I stood the bike up and braked the back wheel was chattering and the tyre squealing, I had no where to go but across the other lane (thank nothing was coming)and up on to a grass bank where i pulled the clutch in and just let it come to a rest , I didnt drop it The thing is its knocked my confidence , and keep thinking what could have been , is this normal and will it wear off ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
streetfighter 0 Posted May 17, 2012 Dave I've been there got that same t-shirt you'll be fine mate I promise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stantheman 0 Posted May 17, 2012 just try to relax and enjoy the ride you will soon get your confidence back if it ever stops raining that is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted May 17, 2012 it will pass dave,so when you say fast paste did you find yourself getting a little behind the others if socommon mistake in my eyes on rideouts just let them get on with it,they will or should wait for you further ahead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fr499y 0 Posted May 17, 2012 Dave the one thing you got to remember is ride at your abilities and the way your confident with. Too many people go on ride outs and try to keep up with the quickest of the lot and its not the way to go! as you have learnt, pushing beyond your capabilities doesn't end the way you hoped! You'll soon forget about it though It's one of the reasons I don't like to go for ride out with a group of people, there will always be one that wants to go flat out and gun it everywhere which tends to make the rest try and keep up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted May 17, 2012 @lee wrote:it will pass dave,so when you say fast paste did you find yourself getting a little behind the others if socommon mistake in my eyes on rideouts just let them get on with it,they will or should wait for you further ahead I wasn't forced in to it and with the drop off system you dont have to keep up with them , I was enjoying it up to that point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lee1 1 Posted May 17, 2012 @Davehutch wrote:@lee wrote:it will pass dave,so when you say fast paste did you find yourself getting a little behind the others if socommon mistake in my eyes on rideouts just let them get on with it,they will or should wait for you further ahead I wasn't forced in to it and with the drop off system you dont have to keep up with them , I was enjoying it up to that point I wouldnt worry about it to much davejust get back out on it and relax worse one I did was a 85mph emergency stop smoked 5 fags one after the other when I parked up that was from playing catch up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madsod 0 Posted May 17, 2012 like has been said it will pass , i had this on the gsxr just after i got it going to fast and as the bike is light , went in to a dip and a cross wind hit the bike took me right over the other side of the road , i also shit my self , but its never caught me out again , at the end of the day bikes are very fast now , and we all ride to fast at time , my saying is give the bike total RESPECT ALL THE TIME , AND READ THE ROAD THE BEST YOU CAN , and im not saying you dont but after the Bandit the BKING is a monster , so much power in the right hand , turn the key and the devil,s horn,s come up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chadatious 0 Posted May 17, 2012 thats confidence mate say on a scale 1 to 10you get up to confidence of 10, have a close call and knocks to back to 8, but ride, anjoy and youll soon get it back to ten? dont thyink any bikers gone without a set back unless their mad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smilinjack 0 Posted May 17, 2012 You'll be just fine Dave. Maybe a gentle bimble out with me is what you need. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aceuggy 0 Posted May 17, 2012 @smilinjack wrote:You'll be just fine Dave. Maybe a gentle bimble out with me is what you need. Take it steady mate and just build up your confidence again. It won't take long once you get back on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Neill 0 Posted May 17, 2012 take up Alans offer Dave what you need is steady confidence buildingrides it'll take a while so slow down widen your feild of vision look as far down the road as you can ( has the effect off making everything seem to happen slower ) and enjoy your Bike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dick65 0 Posted May 17, 2012 i reckon weve all been there,when ive had a crap ride i try and get back out again as soon as possible and dont think about it dont worry about it Dave just ride and enjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted May 17, 2012 Dave you will be ok mate, im always tail end Charlie and i let the dickheads speed of and certainly dont try to keep up, ile be totally honest here after falling off at speed it certainly slows you down I askeed Ron Haslam in 2001 as to why i cant get me confidence back after me off...He answered im a racer on a bloody race track..Your a rider on the queens highway Slow down or die simple he said but in a nice way offcourse Youll be ok mate i promise Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted May 17, 2012 B-King is VERY different to the Bandit.Bandit makes you work, and in return it really does let you know whats going on,even well set up a B12 is low tech and lets you know it when you turn up the pace.B-King is waaaaay better but the extra power,brilliant brakes, frame and good running gearmean its easy to be getting a move on at a fair pace and super smooth before you realise all's about to go pear-shaped.Stick another 10,000 miles on it Dave,you just havent got used to it enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony nitrous 0 Posted May 17, 2012 Maybe this would help Dave..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-GSX1300-B-King-K8-BIG-CC-550-BHP-TURBO-2007-57-like-hayabusa-/180878068983?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2a1d2c4cf7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted May 17, 2012 @Tony nitrous wrote:B-King is VERY different to the Bandit.Bandit makes you work, and in return it really does let you know whats going on,even well set up a B12 is low tech and lets you know it when you turn up the pace.B-King is waaaaay better but the extra power,brilliant brakes, frame and good running gearmean its easy to be getting a move on at a fair pace and super smooth before you realise all's about to go pear-shaped.Stick another 10,000 miles on it Dave,you just havent got used to it enough.well said Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macie_UK 0 Posted May 17, 2012 Yeah it's normal and yes it will pass. Keep getting out on the bike, but don't try and force your pace, just relax and you'll soon get your confidence back up Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BanditMike 0 Posted May 17, 2012 It's all been said mate. Did it a few years ago on the Bandit not long after I passed my test. I now ride to my pace and let everyone else disappear if they need to. It's why I need to put some miles on the ZX. Very different to the Bandit and need to get used it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks for all your replies guys I have taken it all on board , think it was a little bit of all that has been said , but also down to hitting the gravel in the corner which is making me think it is going to be there in every corner if that makes sense Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gravelrash 0 Posted May 18, 2012 I don't mind admitting Ive been there too Dave. A confidence knock just takes a little time to get over, which I'm sure you will . There is nothing wrong with thinking "what if" there's Gravel, Horse sh*t, Tractor, Broken down vehicle etc. round the corner its your self preservation kicking in. Its when your enjoyment of riding is been spoilt by to many negative thoughts that can become a problem. Look on the positive side Dave a less experienced rider might not of controlled the bike as you did and had an off so a big WELL DONE Lots of great advice on this forum Dave its like a big extended family isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpyowl 0 Posted May 18, 2012 Its all been said and sound advice given.IMHO If we don't make mistakes in life how do we learn ?Its what we do with that experience that counts.Turn a negative into a positive you'll be a better rider for it.(sorry to sound like a smart arse ) If nothing else it will improve your forward observation Or get what you really wanted look at the luggage on this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stue11 0 Posted May 18, 2012 @gravelrash wrote:I don't mind admitting Ive been there too Dave. A confidence knock just takes a little time to get over, which I'm sure you will . There is nothing wrong with thinking "what if" there's Gravel, Horse sh*t, Tractor, Broken down vehicle etc. round the corner its your self preservation kicking in. Its when your enjoyment of riding is been spoilt by to many negative thoughts that can become a problem. Look on the positive side Dave a less experienced rider might not of controlled the bike as you did and had an off so a big WELL DONE Lots of great advice on this forum Dave its like a big extended family isn't it? Very good point youve made there...Daves experiance riding motorbikes certainlly did save him putting it down the road Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbie 0 Posted May 18, 2012 We've all been guilty of it at some point mate but your confidence is back/coming back as we've had a couple of outings out together since then and you rode alright to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jezza 0 Posted May 18, 2012 you should have stuck to your Bsa. now stop worrying about it and get back out there and enjoy yaself you silly bugger. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
madfatjake 0 Posted May 18, 2012 I ride about 10,000 miles a year commuting and about 6,000 miles a year for fun, I have been on a motorcycle since I was 15 (now 55) and apart from the usual falls when I was a young whip-a-snapper I manage to complete about 25 years without a serious accident, then 3 years ago a Polish taxi driver decided to take me out on a roundabout while he was talking on the phone.It took me ages to get my confidence back, but it came and yours will as well.As has been said on here take your time and you will find yourself getting quicker.You have to convince yourself that your mishap was not of your doing, it was external forces.Ride safe, Ride happy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iano 0 Posted May 18, 2012 I'm not alone then - having done that myself now think sod the gearbox and use that to check as much speed as possible. Gravel is another matter, dangerous stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldfart 0 Posted May 18, 2012 When you said you went up and stopped on a bank. Was it in Fakenham, Norfolk cos its probably the same one where I ended up years ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flange 0 Posted May 18, 2012 @Tony nitrous wrote:Maybe this would help Dave..... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUZUKI-GSX1300-B-King-K8-BIG-CC-550-BHP-TURBO-2007-57-like-hayabusa-/180878068983?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item2a1d2c4cf7I need a Lotto win lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flange 0 Posted May 18, 2012 @Davehutch wrote:Thanks for all your replies guys I have taken it all on board , think it was a little bit of all that has been said , but also down to hitting the gravel in the corner which is making me think it is going to be there in every corner if that makes sense Thats normal Dave.You did good keeping it shiny side up.Its happened to me before.I was very wiery(sp) for a few weeks or so.A friend told me to find some back roads,pootle down them looking for gravel,horse shit etc then turn around and ride the bit of road a little faster( not full monty) knowing theres nowt there..I know you cant do this every time you ride but it seemed to help me in somw way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Davehutch-hutchs 0 Posted May 19, 2012 @Robbie wrote:We've all been guilty of it at some point mate but your confidence is back/coming back as we've had a couple of outings out together since then and you rode alright to me. thanks Robbie with what you have said and the guy who was following me has said this on the king forum ,makes me feel better :Yours was a little one, no harm done so confidence is likely to return. It will take time though as being a grown up rider you are well aware of what can happen to any of us.Could you have seen the gravel? Was your approach speed a tad too much? These are considerations that some advanced training MIGHT help with, though as a mature and experienced rider you seem to have excellent road sense.I was right behind you at the time and your position in the road, corner approach speeds and lines through the corners seemed perfectly okay to me. I'm sure it could have happened to any of us and I saw you control the situation perfectly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites