HOTWHEELS SECRET DEALINGS CAUGHT ON VIDEO

[Atomkinder 0]

Watch this video and you can learn something

(1) Don’t speak loudly about reserving:
Who would be such a fool to openly asked for reserving Hotwheels car of all places TRU? Worst still a Treasure Hunt?
I don’t think any of the stores (maybe amcorp mall fleet market) is selling Hotwheels new releases branded ‘Pasar Malam’ so do not SHOUT out loud about reserving.

(2) Don’t get caught by candid cameras:
As you well know that majority of human beings carrying mobile phones are 100% that makes 100% camera-ready to snap proof. Even kids. The Technology have advanced so are we.
So if you are going to start digging fresh case of Hotwheels make sure is seen ‘accidential’ instead of ‘coincidental’
Another thing, if you think you can escape the mobile cameras, think again... look up, smile for the cctv.

(3) Don‘t just asked for ONE model:
Obviously there’s only one model in the case of HW worthy of scalping. If you only seeking just the Treasure Hunts cars and not even the VWs or new releases, you’re not a HW collector. A collector will use TH that as a trades not to sell, just for a mere extra dollars of dead presidents? Come on...

(4) Your usual place becomes your deadliest:
Ofcourse you would, your usual sapu place but remember, you’re not the only one. The more regular you go, the more unstoppable you think you become, which makes you vulnerable and easy target. That’s trap is easily set, get it?

My comments are meant to be taken sarcastically towards the INCIDENT of SITUATION in video.
Not just about who the person or who the manager is.
If I am really harsh I would have easily showed the face of the person and the manager.
The video have been sent to Toys R Us malaysia, Toys R Us Inc. and Mattel Malaysia.
Their feedback is positive and action will be taken by them.
Remember a verse says...
"Sepandai-pandai tupai melompat akhirnya jatuh ke tanah jua."

[mushr00m 0]

warghahahaha.. caught in the act..

it would be good if the picture was clearer...
nice one thou..

[kukubeh 0]

there are still a lot of tupai out there. i'm just waiting the time to clap hand when they jatuh ke tanah.

but have to becareful on point number 2 there....

[cham2020 0]

wah..that's me !!
jk

if that's me i would eb SHAME to be caught on reality tv!

[Atomkinder 0]

kukubeh wrote:

there are still a lot of tupai out there. i'm just waiting the time to clap hand when they jatuh ke tanah.

but have to becareful on point number 2 there....

This is not the first time the incident has happened. Un-countable times the whole year of 2009, the same dude will be there speaking loudly and digging cases. That's only when I am there, imagine the times I am not. It has pushed me to the limit, so on that day, instead of walking away as usual, I decided to capture his conversations. Enough is enough.

[musclemania 0]

For those "members", with xtra $$$, nothing is impossible esp. using "reservation with $$$" tactics LOL!!!
No such thing as "limited edition" or "Treasure Hunt" anymore... $$$ can "kau tim" LOL...but it is a "judgement day" for HW Collection then

[ADVedder 0]

wowo.. nice one, hope the person wont do it very publicly or dont do it anymore..

[Atomkinder 0]

musclemania wrote:

For those "members", with xtra $$$, nothing is impossible esp. using "reservation with $$$" tactics LOL!!!
No such thing as "limited edition" or "Treasure Hunt" anymore... $$$ can "kau tim" LOL...but it is a "judgement day" for HW Collection then

Certain tactics cannot be avoided, money mah... siapa tak nak BUT don't get caught.

You see, at one time I was in JJusco, I was offered a rm50 for a Super Thunt, I mean rm50.... well to me, it's not difficult to pay but we're
only encouraging this kinda act. If I pay rm50, what's next rm80? This will just go on and on.
Most importantly, where's the FUN in hunting? Don't you feel good when you hunt hard at 7 E and score a Super rather than just paying?
(I hunt from 12am to 5am, habuk pun tarak but it was fun, ask Steward)
I didn't pay for it, I would rather pay rm50 for a Chevy Panel Real Riders... you know what I mean?

[musclemania 0]

agree. all and all, that is the "thrill" of collecting HW, the nicest part is the time when we are grabbing the T-Hunt or models that we have been hunting hard after so many hardwork (not to mention the car fuel, toll, time, "sacrification", etc.)...wow...speechless, man!!!

[danielh 0]

RM50 to pay for the $uper thunt? NO way!!! I won't pay those "Vampires" a single sen. For the sum of RM50, i can buy at least 2 larry garage's Bone Shaker or other nice carded exclusive on the ebay and i would rather hunt those thunt myself and that's the thrill of hunting.

[chee keng hong 0]

agree with Danielh!! HUnting is Fun!! with that RM50....u can get at least 2 cars with rubber tires from the Larry garage!!

[musclemania 0]

daniel, some collectors may have xtra $, so, no prob for those to pay "a little bit xtra" to get the $uper from the outlet via reservation.
there will be "business" if there is "demand"
there are chances that the "price" offerred by the "in-charge" are cheaper than ebay, sigh...
this is really jeopardizing the fun, thrill and excitement of hunting, sigh...

[cham2020 0]

well
i know there are certain people on the forums who did this but they can act don't know and join us to 'shoot' and scold the people in the video. i am so disgusted....


well to me, if i happen to see a case, i will peek inside and take the things i want? i don't think it's wrong right?

well, if i saw them restocking, and i kindly ask to open the case, is that wrong?

[uzer hisham 0]

oh patut la last 3 weeks i went there they cakap mattel tak hantar, the staffs simpan for that man ! :'(

p/s:at the back bayak pulak kotak mattel hantar.

[cham2020 0]

woah
hisham, you skodeng TRU punya inventory?

[musclemania 0]

cham, that is your luck, nothing wrong about it.
unless $$$ for reservation la...ah...that's different, I think.

last time, i was approached by a promoter when i was about to go. he stopped me fr leaving and show me all the new boxes and let me open 1 by 1, hahaha...my luck. he didn't ask me for "anything", respect his kindness.

all and all...although this is a toy, a collectible toy BUT it is also "political", hahaha...

[musclemania 0]

wa...we have lots of Sherlock Holmes here!!! bravo!!!
ps: same reminder as moderator, careful with the proof you have on hand. "some" may not like it...just be careful.

[cham2020 0]

musclemania wrote:

cham, that is your luck, nothing wrong about it.
unless $$$ for reservation la...ah...that's different, I think.

last time, i was approached by a promoter when i was about to go. he stopped me fr leaving and show me all the new boxes and let me open 1 by 1, hahaha...my luck. he didn't ask me for "anything", respect his kindness.

all and all...although this is a toy, a collectible toy BUT it is also "political", hahaha...

such a nice promoter ! lol !
last time i was at singapore seeing the hotwheels on the rack, i took some, then a chinese lady said: i have more inside, wanna see? lol !
but they are dead cases such a nice lady..

even when i go hunting, when i ask got new stocks? if they ask me cari HIJAU? i said .. wtf is hijau? i only know the cars i like only

[musclemania 0]

that is why i named the haul as "lucky" haul, hahaha. wife and promoter's factor again, hahaha.

kereta hijau ok apa? 2008 FE Pass'n Gasser hijau la, 2009 DG '67 Camaro hijau la, 2009 HW Special Features Jet Threat 4.0 hijau la, MB VW T2-Bus hijau la, MB Austin Mini hijau la, OK APAAAAA LOL!!!
ps: in fact, all above mentioned hijau cars are my favourite in fact.

[cham2020 0]

u know
last time an auntie was helping ppl to simpan hijau
oneday, i found a thunt hanging there.......i took it and feel wierd

next time i went, she said : u wan green right? there alot..i say huh?
she said : there lor, so many green cars....

then she can act dunno anything about thunt
ugh....

[musclemania 0]

the auntie is a good joker and a good actress too, hahaha. she can act as both joker and 2-face in batman movie, LOL!!!

[cham2020 0]

cause my 'insider' friend go report them for simpan thunt for ppl.. ( my friend is childish, he didn't get green,he will screw theworkers).... thus the auntie all got scold by jusco management...

cocky attitude right ? ( i mean the auntie)
can act dunno ...
she told me then: i never simpan green before. when i told her i thought u used to keep greenies

hokuan can vouch for this

[musclemania 0]

NO NO NO...don't agree with u this time CKH bro... we can in fact get 5 models with rubber tires with RM50 at flea market LOL!!!! jk bro!

chee keng hong wrote:

agree with Danielh!! HUnting is Fun!! with that RM50....u can get at least 2 cars with rubber tires from the Larry garage!!

[musclemania 0]

cham, "careful"...mayb some insiders are reading this now...sigh...hahaha.

[pydrumerboy 0]

Just hunt the cars la, don't get involved with the politics. Focus and work real hard.....

[cham2020 0]

musclemania wrote:

cham, "careful"...mayb some insiders are reading this now...sigh...hahaha.

i don't care........

[musclemania 0]

cham, u gotta listen to Yoda if not me, Master already sounds...beware, else, darkness force will pollute u, hahaha.

[alfagta 0]

sometimes jst sad that someone took for granted & no fair play.....if this one carry on, soon other collector will be dam hard to get thunt or else have to buy coz we really dont have nice hw to trade as a beginner for only a year .......so end up spent more to get thunt....
but i can said, some hwc bros really do help to get some too with reasonable price.....
nothing we can do for this hobby collecting games....sure some ppl will be greedy la....
just hope among us in this hwc really share infor & help each other to get what we need.....

[RGSUKAN 0]

aiyak what happen here really s#$%$$#^...advedder tangkap itu olang...

[sinclair 0]

Woah, Sherlock Atomkinder.

No wonder no greenies I can find there.

[cham2020 0]

i wonder if he's a forumer here
if yes
jackpot!

[matchboxclub 0]

aisay.. u should go nearer and take that fella face ma.. then v can cam his face when v see him or join him the car digging kakaka

[undercoverbrother 0]

Undercover tries many many places. Which isn't surprising if i seem to be familiar dude in many stores out there, both guided (on other ppl's pointers) or just plain random hits, and i often communicate sembang alot with them too (but not to the point 'promoting club' or ever using club name to ask for greens lah hehe). So i should be easy target if certain playaz believe they 'know me very well'. Anyhow if you guys stick to these two i think should be sufficient.. i) never train ur homie to filter out the greens and, ii) never manipulate other playaz name in way of favoring urselves over them. Don't get confused this part if the staff just mentioned fellow playa who came there and you simply acknowledge knowing him too don't think there's any harm on that. Basically the point is, you can always try your best to be the first (after all that's what hunting is all about), but never ruin others chance too.

Undercover could go on length talking about insiders, hoardings, calling the stores and stuff but let's just be realistic.. most fellow playaz here had in some time of their hunting life did that as well, though maybe not to certain extent. I just can't do things like picking up fellow forumer's name and scream scalper when me too probably have sold something slightly above retail before. So no way one need to be taught to follow certain hunting rules ('thou shall not buy more than 1 Fastback, thou shall not go more than 5 7E in one night'), but you guys definitely could figure out what's best for yourself and others too.

So props to my homie Atomkinder for sharing with us this cause bigger picture this video exposes new playaz this is always reality of hunting scene, people can always champion themselves over others but reality is not about who's involved, it doesn't take 'us' to screw y'all, but this is always been happening out there.. things we already been dealing with all the time. You may want to step aside from hunting game and spend few ringgit more to have complete regs, or step up the game and take necessary action if the situation is out of control (like what Atom just did), or just keep it old school, hunt elsewhere as hard as you can.

..not to forget another important lesson from Atom, if somehow Undercover too made it to youtube one day, have to train myself not to talk LOUD!

[Atomkinder 0]

sinclair wrote:

Woah, Sherlock Atomkinder.

No wonder no greenies I can find there.

The last time I saw a thunt hanging there was 2007 Jaded TH... so you can imagine, it's been years.
Those were the semi-good ole days.

[prabha71 0]

What exactly has the dude done wrong again..? From the video I don't see it..

[demonicle-hwcmalaysia 0]

prabha.. he asked the staff to reserve the THUNT..

thats a no-no..

if u ask the staff to bring out a case for u. tats fine.

if u ask the staff to call u if theres new stock, its also fine.

if u ask the staff to reserve for u. u r being selfish

[hokuan 0]

Cham, you mean jusco tmn U? Lol, that aunty very funny. Offer to keep TH for me..And they're still keeping TH now..

[thefuhrer 0]

demonicle wrote:

prabha.. he asked the staff to reserve the THUNT..

thats a no-no..

if u ask the staff to bring out a case for u. tats fine.

if u ask the staff to call u if theres new stock, its also fine.

if u ask the staff to reserve for u. u r being selfish

simple & fair : agree

[demonicle-hwcmalaysia 0]

ya exactly.
i used to get calls from a place. he jus noticed me going there EVERYDAY and decided to help me out by jus giving me a call when there is new stock.

he called me. and when i have the time i will go there. but usually they are all hung up on the rack.
if im lucky i'll be the first there.

and no way will i pay them!

[prabha71 0]

The reserving part is a no no.

He did ask but, did the manager reply in the affirmative..?

The dude who took the vid knows the identity of this guy.

I think we all should also. He seems to have no inkling on what this hobby is about. Probably one of the scalpers we frown upon here..

If he is on here.. WE DON"T WANT YOU HERE..!!

[kukubeh 0]

demonicle wrote:

prabha.. he asked the staff to reserve the THUNT..

thats a no-no..

if u ask the staff to bring out a case for u. tats fine.

if u ask the staff to call u if theres new stock, its also fine.

if u ask the staff to reserve for u. u r being selfish

i agree on all except the part where asking staff to call when stock arrive. what if a person give their phone number to the staff and ask them to call simply because he is LAZY to hunt?

for me, asking staff to call when new stock arrive is the same as asking the staff to reserve the stock.

[demonicle-hwcmalaysia 0]

agree to a certain extent.

but when the staff informs me, he will continue to hang them on the racks. so first come first serve.

usually i jus use it to monitor the stock movement and how the number of members in a certain area affects the rate of the movement.

therefore i can share my feedback with mattel or give them feedbacks on certain things.

im currently doing it in JB.

[Fadli85 0]

atomkinder, did you try to approach that guy? If I'm in the situation I'll be a little nervous cause don't want any confrontation (judging the way he speaks loudly).

Or else, "Woi, buat apa sana? korek2 sendiri..! mailah bagi saya join sekali"

[musclemania 0]

Is there possibility that the fella in the clip was in fact helping other collectors to get T-Hunt? Possible, right? hahaha...just to look at the case at different perspective.
Well, all of these are parts of tactics in hunting regardless of the good or "ill" intention. I think there is no "clear" right or wrong about that. Same goes for all the things happen around us; our personal life, working life, politics and so on...we gotta live with it.
Well, this matter is debatable but you yourself are clear of what you have done.
All and all, enjoy collecting HW, this is only a part of the "fun".

[Fadli85 0]

Funny I've been reading this whole thread and most of you guys came out with hundreds of excuses, cheating is cheating....

Collecting HW should be from the pegs and from the pegs alone...

nuff said.

[rikmun 0]

jusco ipoh's got 1 fella she's in-charge of hotwheels..she always keep the thunt for one guy..and now she also become a thunt collector..so damn unfair..parkson also got one malay guy work in toy department..when i go find for hotwheels,he approach to me and say.car yg hijau ke?den he say yg hijau tu mmg stok datang sudah talak.ada orang reserve.kalau talak orang reserve,saya pun sudah anbik ijau tu...that time my feeling wanna punch and wallob that fella.but i already complain to that parkson and jusco already.hope they will take action

[musclemania 0]

Fadli & Rikmun, cool guys...don't get involved in any unnecessary confrontation, try to follow Yoda's rule (page2).

[demonicle-hwcmalaysia 0]

rikmun wrote:

jusco ipoh's got 1 fella she's in-charge of hotwheels..she always keep the thunt for one guy..and now she also become a thunt collector..so damn unfair..parkson also got one malay guy work in toy department..when i go find for hotwheels,he approach to me and say.car yg hijau ke?den he say yg hijau tu mmg stok datang sudah talak.ada orang reserve.kalau talak orang reserve,saya pun sudah anbik ijau tu...that time my feeling wanna punch and wallob that fella.but i already complain to that parkson and jusco already.hope they will take action

so means if i quit my job n go work in parkson, i cannot buy any green at all?

[musclemania 0]

jst have had a chat with my wife during lunch about this incident, talking about staffs working in such outlet and sapu the green. well, even if there is regulation not to allow staffs to purchase HW but still, the staffs also can contact his/her fren outside to buy when they are ngam-ngam fresh on the peg, still, no "prevention" la. so?

[demonicle-hwcmalaysia 0]

its an egg or chicken matter la.

u cant be 100% rite both ways