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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110514/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_crimes_of_the_fathers Not sure if you all caught this in the news! I find it interesting how it supports the Bible as far as the sins of an evil man affecting the generations in their family to come. Notice how the allergies of the grand child got worse as he dug deeper into the past. (Some allergies are caused by Demons) Any how I hope you find this as interesting as I did. BERLIN – Rainer Hoess was 12 years old when he found out his grandfather was one of the worst mass murderers in history. The gardener at his boarding school, an Auschwitz survivor, beat him black and blue after hearing he was the grandson of Rudolf Hoess, commandant of the death camp synonymous with the Holocaust. "He beat me, because he projected on me all the horror he went through," Rainer Hoess said, with a shrug and a helpless smile. "Once a Hoess, always a Hoess. Whether you're the grandfather or the grandson — guilty is guilty." Germans have for decades confronted the Nazi era head-on, paying billions in compensation, meticulously teaching Third Reich history in school, and building memorials to victims. The conviction Thursday in Munich of retired Ohio autoworker John Demjanjuk on charges he was a guard at the Sobibor Nazi death camp drives home how the Holocaust is still very much at the forefront of the German psyche. But most Germans have skirted their own possible family involvement in Nazi atrocities. Now, more than 65 years after the end of Hitler's regime, an increasing number of Germans are trying to pierce the family secrets. Some, like Hoess, have launched an obsessive solitary search. Others seek help from seminars and workshops that have sprung up across Germany to provide research guidance and psychological support. "From the outside, the third generation has had it all — prosperity, access to education, peace and stability," said Sabine Bode, who has written books on how the Holocaust weighs on German families today. "Yet they grew up with a lot of unspoken secrets, felt the silent burdens in their families that were often paired with a lack of emotional warmth and vague anxieties." Like others, Hoess had to overcome fierce resistance within his own family, who preferred that he "not poke around in the past." Undeterred, he spent lonely hours at archives and on the Internet researching his grandfather. Rudolf Hoess was in charge of Auschwitz from May 1940 to November 1943. He came back to Auschwitz for a short stint in 1944, to oversee the murder of some 400,000 Hungarian Jews in the camp's gas chambers within less than two months. The commandant lived in a luxurious mansion at Auschwitz with his wife and five children — among them Hans-Rudolf, the father of Rainer. Only 150 meters (yards) away the crematories' chimneys were blowing out the ashes of the dead day and night. After the war, Hoess went into hiding on a farm in northern Germany; he was eventually captured and hanged in 1947, in front of his former home on the grounds of Auschwitz. "When I investigate and read about my grandfather's crimes, it tears me apart every single time," Hoess said during a recent interview at his home in a little Black Forest village. As a young man, he said, he tried twice to kill himself. He has suffered three heart attacks in recent years as well as asthma, which he says gets worse when he digs into his family's Nazi past. Today, Hoess says, he no longer feels guilty, but the burden of the past weighs on him at all times. "My grandfather was a mass murderer — something that I can only be ashamed and sad about," said the 45-year-old chef and father of two boys and two girls. "However, I do not want to close my eyes and pretend nothing ever happened, like the rest of my family still does ... I want to stop the curse that's been haunting my family ever since, for the sake of myself and that of my own children." Hoess is no longer in contact with his father, brother, aunts and cousins, who all call him a traitor. Strangers often look at him with distrust when he tells them about his grandfather — "as if I could have inherited his evil." Despite such reactions, descendants of Nazis — from high-ranking officials to lowly foot soldiers — are increasingly trying to find out what their families did between 1933 to 1945. "The Nazis — the first generation — were too ashamed to talk about the crimes they committed and covered everything up. The second generation often had trouble personally confronting their Nazi parents. So now it is up to the grandchildren to lift the curses off their families," said Bode. It was only during her university years — reading books about the Holocaust — that Ursula Boger found out her grandfather was the most dreaded torturer at Auschwitz. "I felt numb for days after I read about what he did," recalled Boger, a shy, soft-spoken woman who lives near Freiburg in southwestern Germany. "For many years I was ashamed to tell anybody about him, but then I realized that my own silence was eating me up from inside." Her grandfather, Wilhelm Boger, invented the so-called Boger swing at Auschwitz — an iron bar that hung on chains from the ceiling. Boger would force naked inmates to bend over the bar and beat their genitals until they fainted or died. Boger, 41, said it took her several years of therapy and group seminars to begin to come to terms with the fact her grandfather was a monster. "I felt guilty, even though I hadn't committed a crime myself, felt like I had to do only good things at all times to make up for his evil," she said. Like Hoess, Boger never personally met her grandfather, who died in prison in 1977. After her father died five years ago, she found old letters from her grandfather begging to see his grandchildren in prison — something that never happened. "It all just doesn't go together," Boger said. "He is the man who killed a little boy with an apple who came in on a transport to Auschwitz, by smashing his head against a wall until he was dead, and then picked up and ate that apple. "At the same time, he put a picture of myself as a little girl over his bed in prison. How am I supposed to come to terms with this?" Tanja Hetzer, a therapist in Berlin, helps clients dealing with issues related to their family's Nazi past. While there are no studies or statistics, she said, many cases indicate that descendants of families who have never dealt with their Nazi family history suffer more from depression, burnout and addiction, in particular alcoholism. In one prominent case, Bettina Goering, the grandniece of Hermann Goering, one of the country's leading Nazis and the head of the Luftwaffe air force, said in an Israeli TV documentary that she decided to be sterilized at age 30 "because I was afraid to bear another such monster." Some grandchildren of Nazis find a measure of catharsis in confronting the past. Alexandra Senfft is the granddaughter of Hanns Elard Ludin, Hitler's Slovakia envoy who was involved in the deportation of almost 70,000 Jews. After Ludin was hanged in 1947, his widow raised the children in the belief their father was "a good Nazi." In her book, "The Pain of Silence," Senfft describes how a web of lies burdened her family over decades, especially her mother, who was 14 years old when her beloved father was hanged. "It was unbearable at times to work on this book, it brought up fears and pain, but at the same time I got a lot out of writing it all down," Senfft, a lively 49-year-old, explained during an interview at a Berlin coffee shop. "If I had continued to remain oblivious and silent about my grandfather's crimes, I would have become complicit myself, perhaps without even being aware of it." Senfft said she also wrote the book so her children could be free of guilt and shame, and that confronting family pasts is essential for the health of German society as a whole so that history does not repeat itself. These days Rainer Hoess lectures schoolchildren about the Nazi era and anti-Semitism. A few months ago, he visited Auschwitz for the first time and met a group of Israeli students. That day was "probably the most difficult and intense day in my life," Hoess said, but it was also liberating because he realized that the third generation of Jews after the Holocaust did not hold him responsible. One Israeli girl even gave him a little shell with a blue Star of David painted on it, which he now wears around his neck on a black leather necklace at all times. Hoess was embroiled in controversy in 2009 when Israeli media reported he tried to sell some of his grandfather's possessions to Yad Vashem, the Israeli Holocaust Memorial. But email correspondence seen by the AP backs up Hoess' assertion that he would have been just as willing to donate the items. Hoess eventually donated everything he owned from his grandfather — including a trunk, letters and a cigar cutter — to the Institute of Contemporary History in Munich. Hoess acknowledges that his grandfather will probably never stop haunting him. After his visit to Auschwitz, he met Jozef Paczynski, a Polish camp survivor and the former barber of Commandant Hoess. "Somehow, subconsciously, I was hoping that maybe he would tell me one positive story about my grandfather, something that shows that he wasn't all evil after all, that there was some goodness in him," Hoess confided. Paczynski asked Hoess to get up and walk across the room — then told him: "You look exactly like your grandfather."

Soooo are you passing out FREE samples? Glory be to God

In my dream I saw his face And in his face I saw strength His name shalt be Gabriel My wife is with child Gabriel=God is my strength Soon I will know for sure if its a boy, otherwise she will have a funny name. Due August 22 I love when God names our children My 2 year old was named by God too Alexis=Defender of the people Who is greater then our God? only our God can raise our children before they are born I'm pretty darn excited for what God has in store for them

I'm back in rainy Washington, how I missed the rain.

So was my wife, then one day I laid it out for her. I told her God had answered our prayer and the answer was yes. The next month she was pregnant. not because what I said but because her faith was counted as righteousness. She is pregnant again, against all odds. Bitterness will get that person no where. How do you explain to someone that faith, your belief in Gods word. Your understanding of his desire for your life, and how much he loves you, and how much he loves you is all that you need. God will bless her when she is ready to be blessed. I thank God that my wife was ready.

I think its a lot easier not to get mad at God now that I have been working in dreams, I have lost much but God said he would provide for me during this time, the bible says it too, but it is nice to hear it from the horses mouth. All so God told me that there would be a bunch of closed doors, but at the end of it all, there would be blue sky's. Things are still hard but hearing from God in a more direct fashion has made it so much easier.

Antartica is not far from here you know. Bring your snowboard for the weekend, we will have some fun.

oh come on, I had to watch it again to make sure I knew what I was talking about. It wont hurt you to watch it, listen to what is being said

From where I stand the only way out of this mess is at the end of a rifle. I'm not willing to go that rout, so for me I will just have to live under tyranny. If we can get constitutionalists in, I would have a bit more faith, The Republican party as is, has done nothing to get us on the right track. Everyone we ever vote in, feels they need to bind us with new laws. I can not for the life of me understand why our Mayors allow police to do as they please. The laws are all ready in effect for us to be a police state. It seems we have gone down the wrong path to far to turn around. I bet the new Congress does nothing to repeal these laws. vote me in as dictator and I will clean it all up in 1 year then leave office.

When I read that, God said "I love you" meaning you. But it had emotion attached. He loves you very much and is not so concerned with you wait. I felt a tear. He just wants to Love You. Its hard to explain, its that perfect love that eludes us.

I have eluded to this in a few of my other post. Maybe I should of shouted it from the roof tops, But I am trying to be gentle, as not to draw rebuke, but to alert those to what I am being a witness to. I do not believe the Toronto out pouring is of God! Look at the fruit, that has come. If I must go threw this documentary, or each person involved in this revival, I will. It is not for the glory of God that we shall be deceived! These things are not for us, that we may be deceived, but they are for the world that they may be decived. All this must come to pass.

Its been a very long 2 years for me. Its so hard to believe God loves me, when things are going so bad. I new God had this job for me, but it just dint look like it was going to work out. I was suppose to leave a month ago but the funding dint go threw, so I made arrangements to go to trucker school this Monday. But I got a call for this job, then a few days later I got a call for another job. Well Antarctica it be for 4 months. It will be tough being away from the family for the Holidays. I wonder how God will use this to his Glory?

Its time to go, This stuff must happen. I don't like it either. But we shouldn't worry about it. Jesus would say "Look up, for your redemption draweth near" Not to quote a movie or anything, but, "Stay the course"

all politics start at the local level, We need to take those positions back and work our way to the top. It may take time.

Im not on plan New York yet :) Cant even think of that coast when I'm an west coast person.

Anyone know a good Church? Antartica seems to of fell threw, no funding, going to plan P, running out of plans, so I hope I get something here.

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He had some one on that worked in dreams, so I asked God if it was real, and I had a dream that night, the next day I searched for a dream sight and was brought to this one. My first post is that dream.

Um, I still watch Sid, He brought me to this site and has intreduced me to some great minastries. And it hones my skills of decerning these new agers. I do pray for his ministry when I get a chance. I hope I dint sound abrupt to you, the computer is soooooo impersonal.

Allways have liked him.

Sid confuses me because his heart is for God in such a way that we can only hope to be. Be care full, I see more new ager's on now then in past shows. Get past the inicial aw of the guest and listen to the Spirit. Yes God does all the things you see on the show, but look, who is being glorified. And does it line up with the word of God. Ask God and he will tell you if the guest is of God. It has taken me 6 mths to get the answer from God on some of his guest. Do not be decived by sighns and wonders in these last days. If you wonder my motive, my mother spent 3 days in heaven, and is alive yet. My brother was on his way to hell and saw hell when Jesus apeared (life death thing) I have seen many healings I was intrudeced to dreams by Sid's show. Use decernment in all things. I can not spell tonight (frustraitng)

Good answer. Let me highlight the word PRAISE. Satan shut up! Father thank you for your love Thank you for your joy Thank you for loving me Thank you for defeating my enimies Thank you for my car Thank you for taking care of me You are great Lord You are greater then my sercumstances You are great in my life You are great in my house You are great in my life You are great in my job You are great in my want You are great in my excess I just kinda ramble on like this, pretty much say what the Spirit brings to my heart

Very good post, the Bible says something about the church being watered down in the last days, Don't fret Keep your eyes on the savior. Your heart need not greave, look up for your redemption draws near. This is an exciting time.

looks like I got the job, I still have to jump threw some hoops and get a physical. I'm scheduled to leave Oct 2nd. Thanks for your prayers

I dont know if this is what God has for me. I could use the help praying about it. Its a plumbing job wit Raytheon for about 5 months but could lead to better things.