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mjtorrence

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  1. Thanks for the awesome word no I won't give up and your right I think I had just stopped believing and now I have asked for forgiveness and I just gotta wait it out
  2. Iam in agreement and sending my prayers your way
  3. I just feel like its a dry place for me of waiting and more waiting for the Lord to answer my prayers I have felt like this before and then depression came
  4. I don't ask for prayer from others often the reason is cause I don't like being a bother yet I am standing in the need of much prayer this time, in a way I feel like I am in a dry place with the Lord, I have repented and asked for forgiveness for any sins I may have committed I want to move into my own house not rent anymore and I need a new car and just to be able to be closer with the Lord so will you all please keep me lifted in prayer, thanks
  5. I see that this discussion has went on to four pages yet I have something to say I was driving and I turned into the Christian radio station and guess who was on there and guess what the person was talking about yep your right tithing so I listened and it was J Vernon McGee and he was saying that the tithe was the old law and since Jesus came abolished the old law by shedding his blood that we didn't have to tithe and we could give offerings and give what is put in our hearts, then that night I had a dream and in the dream the number 16 was there and that represents freedom, under salvation; so I believe I got my answer and more yet i will continue to tithe out of obedience to the Lord yet I do like what lola stated I think we can tithe our time too I am in the ministry of helps at church and I tithe alot of my time to the work of the Lord.
  6. Thank you Dove, yet I do understand that you have never heard a Pastor say that but in my church I have heard my Pastor say if you don't tithe you will not be blessed I myself have not ever heard this either and it was a shocker to me it almost made me want to leave the church, yet thank you again for the article
  7. Yes tithing IS actually more than money/income. It has to be. That’s why I believe it says “of INCREASE” and not wages. Give of yourself through talents, time, love, and all the other things expressed to the Pharisees when they were ONLY carefully giving money. The harvest is plentiful but the laborers are few. This is the answer I was looking for yet we are tithers and give offerings and are cheerful givers to every good work, I don't believe that I was being dishonorable to our Pastors, because we honor and respect them as being called of God yet we are to be respected as well. I also respect each and everyone's opinion here I would not ever be disrespectful to anyone I do understand that to talk on the subject of money is very touchy
  8. Thanks everyone for your help and feed back
  9. Yes we were openly told that we couldnt buy a blessing that is something we would never do
  10. Delightful Soul thank you for your response I am not complaining or even talking about the Pastors and I don't believe I am no ways to be compared to Miriam as I am not complaining I am just speaking about any Pastors that are constantly saying to their congregation that if they dont give or tithe they will be cursed and receive no blessing from God, I am not standing in the gap judging anyone I am just putting a topic out there and giving a example of what my experience has been and yes I have heard that scripture before all I was saying is we did what the holy spirit told us to do and we didn't do it publicly we did it in private so as not to bring attention to ourselves and openly we get rebuked for what for listening and being obedient. My question was about the constantly asking for money and also saying if you don't tithe or give you won't be blessed no where in the bible does it say this, also I am not angry or frustrated I believe that I was just hurt that this would be said to us there is no way we would ever think of buying a blessing.
  11. Thank you dreamster and cholette for praying for the church, what I meant to say is when they ask for money for other things such as trips and be a blessing to others in the church I will not give because I feel like that was very rude thing to say to me and my husband when we were obeying God and when we give we do not give selfishly we give because it brings joy to our heart to give because God has been so good to us and has blessed us richly
  12. God doesn't MAKE us do anything...he gives us a plan to better our lives, but doesn't penalize us for not choosing the better way...that's UNCONDITIONAL LOVE!! I like that you said this Cholette yet today this is what my Pastor said to the congreation that if you don't tithe or give that God will not bless you if ur in a grt church thats doin the stuff of the gospel u shood be able 2 give as ur hearts desires,, thank you for this dreamster this is very true yet in my church this tithing thing is a big big deal and constantly said every service that if we don't tithe or give we will be cursed Giving should be a joy. Yes our giving should be cheerfully and joyfully not because someone is constantly battering us to give and give. I am not one that is making a fuss about tithing cause we are tithers and givers its just that I dont see the importance of keep preaching about it every service. As for instance the holy spirit spoke not only to me but to my husband too one service to give a thousand dollars so we did it without hestation and you know what the Pastor got up the next Sun and said just because you gave that money you can't buy a blessing first of all we were not in the least trying to buy something that we know we can't second we heard the holy spirit say give and we obeyed and thirdly after that I said I wouldn't give any more to anything
  13. I have a question that has been on my mind, If we as Christians who are saved by the blood of Jesus, and Jesus came to abolish the old law, and we are not under the law but saved by grace, then why do Pastors still preach the importance of the tithe? It states in 2Corn 9:7 You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. "For God loves a person who gives cheerfully."
  14. thank you for reminding me that no matter what we can't outgive God
  15. Way to go we is a awesome plan 
  16. Thanks Goldeneagle yes this is true I will get past this with the help from the Lord
  17. Our God is awesome and good all the time
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